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Re: How is this "pattern" called?

Date 2012-05-18 14:35 -0700
From Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: How is this "pattern" called?
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On 5/18/2012 2:13 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:20:11 -0700, markspace<-@.>  wrote:
>
>> On 5/18/2012 10:50 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>>
>>>        a case of KISS or maybe YAGNI.
>
>> I like these too; good thoughts.
>
>       I have tended to avoid using OOP patterns except for what I came
> up with myself.  I did try reading one of the OOP patterns books, but
> ugh!  Some people seem to think that the last thing you should is do
> in OOP is write a statement that actually instantiates an object.
> (Qual horreur!)  Instead, you call a factory -- is that it? -- and
> have all sorts of indirection.
>
>       If you *really* need that, fine, but I do not.  The closest that
> I have come to this is related classes needing common code.  I have
> them inherit from a class with that code.  That code class is never
> instantiated itself.
>
>       With all of the hoopla over OOP patterns, it is difficult for me
> to tell how much they are really needed.
>
>       Yes, I go for keeping it fairly simple.

I think a lot depends on the answer to one key question:

What is the cost if this needs to be changed?

If we are talking about a widely distributed API, where a change will
break thousands of programs, it is worth doing a lot to minimize the
risk of incompatible change. If we are talking about code that is used
in a couple of places in one program, KISS and refactor if necessary.

Patricia

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Re: How is this "pattern" called? Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-05-18 10:03 -0600
  Re: How is this "pattern" called? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-18 10:50 -0700
    Re: How is this "pattern" called? markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-18 12:20 -0700
      Re: How is this "pattern" called? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-18 14:13 -0700
        Re: How is this "pattern" called? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-05-18 14:35 -0700
          Re: How is this "pattern" called? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-18 15:29 -0700
            Re: How is this "pattern" called? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-19 22:38 -0400
              Re: How is this "pattern" called? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-05-20 11:34 -0700
                Re: How is this "pattern" called? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-20 14:59 -0400
                Re: How is this "pattern" called? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-05-20 12:03 -0700
                Re: How is this "pattern" called? markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-20 13:19 -0700
                Re: How is this "pattern" called? Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-30 14:32 +0200
                Re: How is this "pattern" called? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-02 09:25 -0700
              Re: How is this "pattern" called? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-20 20:40 -0700
                Re: How is this "pattern" called? Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-30 14:33 +0200
          Re: How is this "pattern" called? Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-30 14:32 +0200
        Re: How is this "pattern" called? markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-18 15:28 -0700
        Re: How is this "pattern" called? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-19 22:37 -0400
          Re: How is this "pattern" called? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-20 20:43 -0700
            Re: How is this "pattern" called? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-05-21 00:09 -0700
              Re: How is this "pattern" called? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-21 10:04 -0700
            Re: How is this "pattern" called? Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-30 23:58 +0200
    Re: How is this "pattern" called? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-19 22:33 -0400
      Re: How is this "pattern" called? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-20 20:44 -0700
        Re: How is this "pattern" called? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-05-21 00:11 -0700

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