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Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> wrote:
> On 06/09/12 16:10, Andreas Leitgeb wrote:
>> Back to the Box-example: as the Box-framework may not expect the
>> getContent() call to depend on any outer local context, it might
>> evaluate it earlier, and just return a cached result on your call.
> No, not in this case.  The whole point of this framework is ...

That was more than I really cared to know about that Box-framework ;-)

> The possibility of being screwed only comes if the getContent or 
> getChildContent methods decide to call getFieldContent() indirectly by 
> starting another thread.  For this framework, I don't foresee it 
> happening.  Even if it did, I might be able still to make a lesser 
> guarantee, that such threads are descendants of the original thread, so 
> an InheritableThreadLocal would still work.

Still an unsafe assumption: Only after you changed ThreadLocal to 
InheritedThreadLocal and start to feel safe again, the framework
would be optimized further, to use pool-threads, of course ;-)

> If even that's no good, and an extra parameter is required, what should 
> it be, since the framework has no knowledge of how many or what types of 
> contexts are required?

Some Context class that contains/references the complete last-minute
knowledge of the site where getContent() is called from. It should
be the same instance for the whole tree of boxes.

Even if some of the "possible framework changes" won't happen with your
Box framework, they might do so for whatever framework the OP uses.

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Wormholes Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-09-03 18:12 -0700
  Re: Wormholes eric@invalid.com (EricF) - 2012-09-04 02:06 +0000
    Re: Wormholes Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-09-04 10:08 -0700
    Re: Wormholes Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2012-09-09 13:55 +0200
  Re: Wormholes Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-09-03 22:34 -0400
    Re: Wormholes Stuart <DerTopper@web.de> - 2012-09-04 12:15 +0200
  Re: Wormholes markspace <-@.> - 2012-09-03 21:00 -0700
    Re: Wormholes Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-09-04 07:08 +0200
  Re: Wormholes Zermelo <zermelo@teletu.it.nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-04 08:47 +0200
    Re: Wormholes Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-09-04 03:10 -0700
      Re: Wormholes Zermelo <zermelo@teletu.it.nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-04 16:09 +0200
        Re: Wormholes Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-09-04 08:34 -0700
          Re: Wormholes Zermelo <zermelo@teletu.it.nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-04 17:46 +0200
            Re: Wormholes Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-09-04 09:31 -0700
        Re: Wormholes Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-09-04 11:14 -0700
        Re: Wormholes Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-09-04 19:59 -0400
    Re: Wormholes Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-09-04 13:20 -0700
      Re: Wormholes Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-09-04 20:00 -0400
      Re: Wormholes Zermelo <zermelo@teletu.it.nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-05 09:01 +0200
      Re: Wormholes Zermelo <zermelo@teletu.it.nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-05 09:02 +0200
      Re: Wormholes Zermelo <zermelo@teletu.it.nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-05 09:02 +0200
        Re: Wormholes Zermelo <zermelo@teletu.it.nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-05 09:03 +0200
      Re: Wormholes markspace <-@.> - 2012-09-05 17:34 -0700
  Re: Wormholes Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2012-09-04 14:18 +0100
    Re: Wormholes Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-09-05 21:51 +0200
      Re: Wormholes Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2012-09-05 23:26 +0100
        Re: Wormholes Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2012-09-06 09:32 +0000
          Re: Wormholes Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2012-09-06 11:47 +0100
            Re: Wormholes Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2012-09-06 15:10 +0000
              Re: Wormholes Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2012-09-06 20:12 +0100
                Re: Wormholes Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2012-09-06 21:08 +0000
  Re: Wormholes Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2012-09-04 17:26 +0100
  Re: Wormholes Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-09-04 09:28 -0700
  Re: Wormholes David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> - 2012-09-04 16:54 -0400

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