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Re: looping through a list, starting at 1

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From Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at>
Subject Re: looping through a list, starting at 1
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supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations <supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com> wrote:
> On 12/08/2011 4:32 AM, Andreas Leitgeb wrote:
>> Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> And my point was that there often is a way to put that
>>> bifurcation into a compile-time structure rather than
>>> run time.
>> For classes I design myself: yes. It's called "virtual
>> methods" and is a standard feature of Java ;-)
>> That just isn't an option for foreign library classes
>> if the "bifurcation" happens in my own code.
>> I'm still eager to see an alternative to "instanceof"
>> for the RandomAccess-case.

> I wonder what the odds are of Java 8 adding a variant of switch/case 
> like this?

> switch class (object) {
>      case java.util.RandomAccess:
>          // code goes here
>          break;
> [...]

If you ask for my opinion: zero. 

The particular usecase that RandomAccess is used for is in my
humble opinion merely a syntactic trick almost same as defining
a boolean getter in each relevant class that would merely return
constantly true or constantly false depending on whether the
implementing class has a certain property or not. 

This particular misuse makes it necessary to use instanceof
just as the syntax for querying the property.

Sweetening this particular misuse of interfaces with some
additional syntactic sugar is so very the wrong way, that
I really don't want say much more about it.

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Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-08-01 20:32 -0400
  Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-08-02 02:42 -0700
    Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2011-08-02 19:32 +0000
      Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-08-10 09:00 -0700
        Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-10 21:39 +0000
          Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-08-10 19:10 -0300
            Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-10 22:50 +0000
              Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-08-11 07:02 -0300
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-11 11:37 +0000
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-08-11 07:14 -0700
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-11 16:18 +0000
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-08-11 17:39 -0300
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-12 08:09 +0000
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations <supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com> - 2011-08-11 09:52 -0400
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-08-11 17:26 -0300
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations <supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com> - 2011-08-11 20:11 -0400
          Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-08-10 20:31 -0700
            Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-11 16:07 +0000
              Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-08-11 09:20 -0700
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-11 18:03 +0000
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-08-11 12:55 -0700
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-12 08:32 +0000
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations <supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com> - 2011-08-12 09:09 -0400
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-12 14:38 +0000
                Re: looping through a list, starting at 1 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-12 14:51 +0000

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