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Re: Java cousins

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On 1/25/2013 3:26 AM, Joerg Meier wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:01:25 -0800 (PST), bob smith wrote:
>
>> I was just wondering what other technologies besides Java are affected by the Oracle/Sun issue.  I think JavaScript is somewhat affected, but I don't fully understand that.
>
> Java and JavaScript are really in no way related. The confusingly similar
> naming is the only thing they have in common, other than that, they are
> about as related as Java is to the similarly named coffee.
>

naming is fun isn't it...

but, oddly, no one seems to really be rapidly jumping over to the 
ECMAScript name...

but, not many people are comfortable with the Java trademark either.

so, we end up with a lot of <InsertNameHere>Script (or "WhateverScript") 
languages...
admittedly, my language is included in this category as well.

it sort of works partly as ECMAScript sort of has fuzzy borders, so more 
or less anything with a similar syntax and similar features will fit.

can you type: "var obj={x: 3, y: 4};" and "function foo(x) { ... }" and 
similar? good enough...

unlike many other languages, there is no limit on how many syntax 
features or keywords can be added, and a person can also usually get by 
leaving things out as well, so the borders between ECMAScript and 
WhateverScript are much less clearly defined than, say, between C and 
Java, ...

(and, one can tempt the waters, by say, using less absurd semantics for 
'==', ...).

but, ironically, JavaScript remains more distinctive at least as far as 
it is "the language that runs in web-browsers and is directly embedded 
into HTML documents", and generally bounded by "you can't vary things 
too much, or people wont use a browser where most websites don't work, 
or a site where most browsers don't work", which is a property generally 
absent from many other WhateverScript variants (since there may be 
little or no direct need to share code with other implementations).

but, with the drawback that many people are so often prone to confuse 
JavaScript and Java.

or such...

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Java cousins bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> - 2013-01-24 11:01 -0800
  Re: Java cousins Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-24 14:18 -0500
    Re: Java cousins Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-24 14:25 -0500
  Re: Java cousins Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-01-25 10:26 +0100
    Re: Java cousins BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-25 12:22 -0600
      Re: Java cousins Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-01-26 02:49 -0800
        Re: Java cousins BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-26 22:29 -0600

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