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Re: Need clarification on Object.equals.

From	Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject	Re: Need clarification on Object.equals.
Date	2012-12-19 11:08 -0600
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 12/19/2012 9:32 AM, lipska the kat wrote:
> On 19/12/12 14:58, Joshua Cranmer wrote:
>> On 12/19/2012 8:36 AM, lipska the kat wrote:
>>> On 19/12/12 14:09, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 12/19/2012 9:07 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> On 12/19/2012 6:22 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/19/2012 2:20 AM, lipska the kat wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My point is that while newbies do have a "allowed to post
>>>> stupid questions" card,
>>>
>
>>> Your arrogance is almost beyond belief. Listen to yourself
>>> You really do think that you are in some way qualified to pass judgment
>>> on what is a stupid question and what isn't.
>>
>> I would suggest that you finish reading entire posts before starting
>> yelling matches, for if you had finished the sentence (assuming basic
>> fluency in reading comprehension), you would have learned that Arne was
>> opining that the criterion for what should be considered socially
>> acceptable by this newsgroup isn't the quality of the question but
>> rather by whether or not it is insulting. Also note that there was in no
>> way any attempt to delineate specifically what class of questions
>> corresponds to "stupid questions," which is apt because the entire point
>> of the post was to postulate the nonimportance of such a class.
>
> Well for someone who can spout such a long winded discourse about
> nothing in particular I'm surprised you don't see the obvious.

When you have four people who have all pointed out that you probably 
missed the point, the evidence is in favor that you miscomprehended the 
intended point of the state.

> Lets take the sentence
>
> "allowed to post stupid questions"
>
> Who or what exactly 'allows' someone to post a question. I suggest it is
> the nntp protocol over the users internet connection, it certainly isn't
> you or one of you little group of self appointed administrators.

If you read what I wrote (I suspect you didn't, at least not closely), 
you will notice that I referred to it as "what [is] considered socially 
acceptable by this newsgroup"; that is how I read "allowed to post."

> What makes you or anyone else qualified to determine the validity of any
> question anywhere on Usenet ... your own grossly inflated ego perhaps.

And the entire point of Arne's post in the first place was that whether 
or not a question is socially accepted in this newsgroup is 
*independent* of its valuation as a "stupid question" or not. He never 
portrayed himself as qualified to determine the metric of how stupid or 
not stupid a question is.

> You are missing the point. It is not this particular instance of
> arrogance I particularly object to although there have been some
> spectacular instances of arrogance here today, but the general
> preponderance of puffed up self appointed quasi academic popinjays
> that inhabit usenet in general and this group in particular and are
> strangling what should be a forum for the free and frank exchange of views.

Oh, so you dislike everyone who acts like you. I get it. :-)

-- 
Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not 
tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth

Thread

Need clarification on Object.equals. "plewto@gmail.com" <plewto@gmail.com> - 2012-12-18 00:13 -0800
  Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-18 10:39 +0000
    Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-12-18 04:48 -0800
      Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-12-18 10:56 -0800
        Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. FredK <fred.l.kleinschmidt@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 08:13 -0800
          Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 11:22 -0500
            Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2012-12-19 17:43 +0100
              Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 12:06 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-12-19 09:39 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 13:24 -0500
            Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. FredK <fred.l.kleinschmidt@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 11:23 -0800
          Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-12-19 08:25 -0800
    Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. plewto@gmail.com - 2012-12-18 10:56 -0800
      Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-12-18 14:24 -0700
        Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-12-18 13:52 -0800
  Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. markspace <-@.> - 2012-12-18 10:24 -0800
    Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. plewto@gmail.com - 2012-12-18 10:48 -0800
      Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> - 2012-12-18 14:01 -0500
        Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. plewto@gmail.com - 2012-12-18 12:14 -0800
          Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. plewto@gmail.com - 2012-12-18 12:17 -0800
            Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-18 22:16 -0500
              Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 10:20 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-12-19 03:22 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 12:06 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 09:07 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 09:09 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 14:36 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 09:42 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 15:05 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2012-12-19 16:15 +0100
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 15:47 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2012-12-19 16:57 +0100
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 16:51 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2012-12-19 18:12 +0100
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 17:27 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2012-12-19 11:40 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 10:17 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 15:40 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 10:50 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2012-12-19 17:01 +0100
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2012-12-19 10:22 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 18:49 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2012-12-19 11:41 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-12-19 17:05 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-20 08:34 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-12-20 07:27 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2012-12-20 09:04 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-20 18:10 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-12-20 11:08 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Peter Dunihơ <Np0eStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-12-21 07:50 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-12-21 07:30 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-21 17:09 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Leŵ <lewbl0ch@gmail.com> - 2012-12-23 00:54 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-21 12:23 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-21 17:38 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhoj <arne@vajhoj.dk> - 2012-12-23 00:50 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-21 08:39 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2012-12-20 13:39 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-21 08:34 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-12-19 09:22 -0600
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 15:35 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 10:56 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 17:08 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2012-12-19 08:58 -0600
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 15:32 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2012-12-19 11:08 -0600
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 17:32 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2012-12-19 18:41 +0100
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 17:58 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 18:12 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2012-12-19 12:29 -0600
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2012-12-19 12:00 -0600
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 18:06 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 13:13 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-12-19 07:48 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 16:48 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 12:09 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 17:50 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 13:14 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 18:59 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 13:16 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 19:05 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2012-12-19 11:45 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 20:00 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-12-19 17:15 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-20 09:22 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-12-20 07:36 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2012-12-19 10:19 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-19 19:16 +0000
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2012-12-19 11:48 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-12-19 14:12 -0600
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 09:04 -0500
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-12-19 13:40 -0800
                Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-20 09:30 +0000
          Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-12-18 12:52 -0800
          Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2012-12-19 09:27 -0600
            Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-19 10:44 -0500
      Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-18 22:11 -0500
  Re: Need clarification on Object.equals. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-18 22:10 -0500

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