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On 5/15/2011 7:23 AM, Tom Anderson wrote:
>
> different machines - different processors, different compilers,
> different applications of the same compiler - will carry out that
> calculation in different ways


If you want to define a consistent 100% deterministic algorithm, have 
at.  I'm saying I don't need one.  (I also said that "infinite 
precision" or similar attempts don't work for me, due to being too hard 
to implement in practice.)


>
> You evidently feel that Rubbish Nowhere is a bigger win than Failure
> Somewhere is a loss. Others do not.


Yeah, and I think I'm having a hard time understanding why "Rubbish 
Nowhere" is not universally considered a win.  Who wants rubbish?


>
> So basically, it's a matter of consistent, correct, quick - pick two.

No, it's not.  All three are 100% possible.  I don't think anyone has 
shown that what is being touted here as "consistent" or "deterministic" 
has any use in real world problems.

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                Re: Java puzzler Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-05-15 15:23 +0100
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  Re: Java puzzler Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-11 09:13 -0400
  Re: Java puzzler markspace <-@.> - 2011-05-11 08:00 -0700

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