Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!aioe.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: markspace <-@.> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Java puzzler Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 08:09:31 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <4db69c13-878f-4806-adb2-a3c5adb1c48c@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> <-8mdnSRPEIdA21HQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 15:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="Gyo0FQiuGFjMddvl0JJHxw"; logging-data="29096"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+NNS54/txLoHw9ZKDveymgvf94p23iJIg=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:EhFBzQrHy5zVBKHDSj1T1WgqWrQ= Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:4121 On 5/15/2011 7:23 AM, Tom Anderson wrote: > > different machines - different processors, different compilers, > different applications of the same compiler - will carry out that > calculation in different ways If you want to define a consistent 100% deterministic algorithm, have at. I'm saying I don't need one. (I also said that "infinite precision" or similar attempts don't work for me, due to being too hard to implement in practice.) > > You evidently feel that Rubbish Nowhere is a bigger win than Failure > Somewhere is a loss. Others do not. Yeah, and I think I'm having a hard time understanding why "Rubbish Nowhere" is not universally considered a win. Who wants rubbish? > > So basically, it's a matter of consistent, correct, quick - pick two. No, it's not. All three are 100% possible. I don't think anyone has shown that what is being touted here as "consistent" or "deterministic" has any use in real world problems.