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Re: Why “new”?

From Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Why “new”?
Date 2011-02-05 18:43 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 05/02/2011 05:47, Lew allegedly wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro allegedly wrote:
>>> Java copied C++ in using the word “new” to indicate class
>>> instantiation on
>>> the heap. (Of course, Java is different in not having any other kind of
>>> class instantiation.)
>>>
>>> But what purpose does this word serve? Java defines no meaning for
>>> “classname(args)” different from “new classname(args)”. How many
>>> hundreds of
>>> times a day do Java programms write something like
>>>
>>> classname varname = new classname(args);
>>>
>>> compared to, dare I say it, Python:
>>>
>>> varname = classname(args)
>>>
>>> I’m surprised Java never added a shorter form, say
>>>
>>> classname varname(args);
>>>
>>> which is of course straight out of C++.
>
> Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
>> Are you trolling?
>
> Unanswerable question about language design motivation: check.
> Comparison to other languages making them seem better: check.
> Denigration of language feature ("I'm surprised that..."): check.
> Rejection of factual statements that contradict poster: check.
> Obfuscated reasoning with shifting context: check.
> /Ad hominem/ attacks: nope.
> Defensive stance: nope.
> Arrogant or aggressive tone: nope.

I was waiting for a "no" from the OP before even trying to address their 
question. Funny thing it didn't come.

-- 
DF.

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Why “new”? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-05 13:53 +1300
  Re: Why ?new?? Owen Jacobson <angrybaldguy@gmail.com> - 2011-02-05 10:46 -0500
  Re: Why “new”? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-05 19:29 +1300
    Re: Why “new”? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-02-05 09:22 -0500
    Re: Why “new”? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-02-05 10:41 -0500
  Re: Why “new”? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-02-04 23:43 -0500
    Re: Why “new”? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-02-05 09:31 -0400
  Re: Why “new”? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net.invalid> - 2011-02-05 18:43 +0100
  Re: Why “new”? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-02-04 20:05 -0500
    Re: Why “new”? "Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> - 2011-02-04 17:33 -0800
      Re: Why “new”? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-05 14:53 +1300
    Re: Why “new”? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-05 14:24 +1300
  Re: Why “new”? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-02-04 23:47 -0500
  Re: Why “new”? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net.invalid> - 2011-02-05 02:09 +0100

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