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Re: Why “new”?

From Lew <noone@lewscanon.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Why “new”?
Date 2011-02-04 23:47 -0500
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro allegedly wrote:
>> Java copied C++ in using the word “new” to indicate class instantiation on
>> the heap. (Of course, Java is different in not having any other kind of
>> class instantiation.)
>>
>> But what purpose does this word serve? Java defines no meaning for
>> “classname(args)” different from “new classname(args)”. How many hundreds of
>> times a day do Java programms write something like
>>
>> classname varname = new classname(args);
>>
>> compared to, dare I say it, Python:
>>
>> varname = classname(args)
>>
>> I’m surprised Java never added a shorter form, say
>>
>> classname varname(args);
>>
>> which is of course straight out of C++.

Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
> Are you trolling?

Unanswerable question about language design motivation:     check.
Comparison to other languages making them seem better:      check.
Denigration of language feature ("I'm surprised that..."):  check.
Rejection of factual statements that contradict poster:     check.
Obfuscated reasoning with shifting context:                 check.
/Ad hominem/ attacks:                                        nope.
Defensive stance:                                            nope.
Arrogant or aggressive tone:                                 nope.

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Lew
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Why “new”? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-05 13:53 +1300
  Re: Why “new”? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-02-05 09:07 -0500
  Re: Why “new”? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-05 16:51 +1300
    Re: Why “new”? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-02-04 23:06 -0500
    Re: Why “new”? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-05 19:45 +1300
      Re: Why “new”? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-02-05 10:32 -0500
    Re: Why “new”? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-02-04 23:40 -0500
    Re: Why “new”? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-02-07 19:15 -0500
  Re: Why ?new?? Owen Jacobson <angrybaldguy@gmail.com> - 2011-02-05 10:46 -0500
  Re: Why “new”? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-05 19:29 +1300
    Re: Why “new”? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-02-05 09:22 -0500
    Re: Why “new”? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-02-05 10:41 -0500
  Re: Why “new”? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-02-04 23:43 -0500
    Re: Why “new”? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-02-05 09:31 -0400
  Re: Why “new”? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net.invalid> - 2011-02-05 18:43 +0100
  Re: Why “new”? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-02-04 20:05 -0500
    Re: Why “new”? "Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> - 2011-02-04 17:33 -0800
      Re: Why “new”? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-05 14:53 +1300
        Re: Why “new”? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2011-02-04 21:31 -0800
          Re: Why “new”? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-02-05 01:25 -0500
    Re: Why “new”? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-05 14:24 +1300
  Re: Why “new”? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-02-04 23:47 -0500
  Re: Why “new”? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net.invalid> - 2011-02-05 02:09 +0100

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