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| From | Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | Re: Holy boop: goto for Java |
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| Date | 2012-06-04 07:43 -0700 |
On 6/4/12 12:37 AM, Robert Klemme wrote:
> On Monday, June 4, 2012 9:28:13 AM UTC+2, Arved Sandstrom wrote:
>> What amazes me is that these individuals support this religious stance
>> by arguing that it improves readability, when producing little auxiliary
>> methods usually does anything but.
>
> I am not religious about break / continue (although I use it extremely seldom, I am more likely to use "return" inside a loop). But I disagree about your general statement about little auxiliary methods usually not improving readability. It all depends on the specific case, of course, but giving a short part of an algorithm a name (with the option to have a place to put JavaDoc) often helps readability in my experience.
+1
I rarely have methods that are more than 10 lines long anymore, thanks
to "Extract Method" and other refactorings. This sort of goes along with
"self-documenting" code. Now granted, someone could start naming these
auxiliary methods in such a way to be contrary to the goal of
readability, but that's just bad programming. I find a well named
method often removes a hastily written comment. For example:
---
while (isYSquibled()) {...}
---
versus
---
//Loop while x squibles y.
while (x == null || y.canBeSquibledBy(x)) {...}
---
Another thing I've noticed is that programmers are less likely to change
the method to do something-else without renaming the method, but are
more likely to forget or ignore comments explaining what a single line
does.
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Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-06-03 20:03 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-03 20:30 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-03 21:17 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-04 07:56 +0200
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-06-04 04:28 -0300
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-04 00:37 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-06-04 07:43 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java "Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-04 07:47 -0700
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Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-06-04 17:07 -0300
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-06-04 13:17 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-04 14:46 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-05 07:31 +0200
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-05 09:15 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-06-05 10:51 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-05 10:54 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-06-06 05:58 -0300
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-06 12:11 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-05 23:24 +0200
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-06-05 17:30 -0400
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-05 20:06 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-07-22 06:37 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Chris Riesbeck <Chris.Riesbeck@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 13:27 -0500
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-23 13:23 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-04 09:33 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2012-06-04 07:26 -0400
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java "Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-04 07:44 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-04 18:13 +0200
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-04 10:23 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-04 10:45 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-04 20:31 +0200
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-06-04 11:52 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-06-04 14:15 -0500
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-04 14:52 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-06-04 10:50 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-06-04 10:56 -0700
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-06-04 13:05 -0500
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2012-06-04 07:28 -0400
Re: Holy boop: goto for Java Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-03 22:10 -0700
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