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Re: @Override

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On Monday, July 23, 2012 3:08:04 PM UTC-7, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
> On 23/07/2012 23:51, Lew allegedly wrote:
> > On Monday, July 23, 2012 2:40:21 PM UTC-7, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
> >> Uh... there was a (pretty long) time when people and programs *did*
> >> manage to exist without that annotation, you know. No need to be overly
> >> dramatic.
> > 
> > You sound like Grandpaw complaining that kids these days have it too easy.
> > "In my day, we had to check for ourselves whether the method overrode a 
> > parent method!"
> > 
> > Your irrelevant observation does not give a reason to eschew '@Override'.
> > 
> > The fact is that Java *does* have it, and it *is* useful for the class of bugs 
> > it helps prevent. 
> > 
> > A point you ignore in your rush to fallacious argumentation.
> > 
> > That languages (including Java itself) didn't used to have 
> > it is hardly an argument against it. In fact, that Java added it, given the 
> > language's resistance to change, is strong evidence in favor of it. 
> > So your evidence supports use of '@Override'. You drew exactly the 
> > opposite of the correct conclusion from your data.
> 
> And you sound like a drama queen. The fact that Java programs existed at

Ad hominem argument.

> a point where @Override didn't exist proves that this annotation is not
> strictly necessary. And the assiduous JLS reader that you are should
> know that this hasn't changed.

I'm sorry, but where did I claim that the annotation is strictly necessary?

You're refuting a claim not made.

Straw-man argument.

> Is that annotation a good thing? Yes. Should it be used? Absolutely.

So we agree.

> As a matter of fact, its merits are such that with a minimum of
> explanation, any sensible person would adopt it on their own. No need to
> exaggerate or dramatize the issue. No need to try to ridicule me for
> refusing your dramatization. Attempts like that to use coercion rather
> than reason are counter-productive.

Like calling me names?

Physician, cure thyself.

-- 
Lew

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@Override bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> - 2012-07-23 11:30 -0700
  Re: @Override Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-07-23 20:52 +0200
  Re: @Override markspace <-@.> - 2012-07-23 11:54 -0700
    Re: @Override Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 13:05 -0700
    Re: @Override Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-23 19:54 -0400
  Re: @Override "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-07-23 15:56 -0400
    Re: @Override Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2012-07-23 14:19 -0700
      Re: @Override rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> - 2012-07-24 13:09 +0100
        Re: @Override Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-24 21:29 -0400
      Re: @Override Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-07-24 09:04 -0400
  Re: @Override Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-07-23 16:35 -0400
    Re: @Override Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 13:59 -0700
      Re: @Override Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-07-23 23:40 +0200
        Re: @Override Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 14:51 -0700
          Re: @Override Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-07-24 00:08 +0200
            Re: @Override Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 16:57 -0700
      Re: @Override Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-07-24 09:46 +0200
    Re: @Override Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-23 19:58 -0400
      Re: @Override Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-07-23 22:16 -0400
        Re: @Override Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-23 22:57 -0400
          Re: @Override Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-07-23 23:47 -0400
            Re: @Override Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-24 21:35 -0400
    Re: @Override Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-07-26 20:00 -0600
  Re: @Override Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-23 14:01 -0700
  Re: @Override Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2012-07-24 00:22 +0200
    Re: @Override Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-23 19:53 -0400
      Re: @Override Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-23 18:59 -0700
      Re: @Override Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2012-07-24 22:57 +0200
        Re: @Override Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-24 21:24 -0400
    Re: @Override Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-07-24 15:36 +0200
      Re: @Override Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-24 09:54 -0700
      Re: @Override Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2012-07-24 23:14 +0200
        Re: @Override Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-07-25 07:57 +0200
          Re: @Override Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-25 10:34 -0700
          Re: @Override Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-25 14:54 -0400
            Re: @Override Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2012-07-30 14:42 +0200
      Re: @Override Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-24 21:20 -0400
        Re: @Override Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-07-25 06:26 -0700
          Re: @Override Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-25 17:16 -0400
  Re: @Override Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-07-23 20:59 -0700
  Re: @Override Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2012-07-24 16:06 +0200

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