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Re: throw null investigation

From Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: throw null investigation
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Date 2012-07-18 16:16 -0700

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On 7/18/12 4:00 PM, Daniel Pitts wrote:
> On 7/18/12 3:55 PM, markspace wrote:
>> On 7/18/2012 3:06 PM, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
>>>
>>> But if what you say is correct, and Java does /not/ systematically wrap
>>> nulls "thrown" from JNI (assuming it's possible), then it would be
>>> technically possible to catch a null Exception in the Java runtime,
>>> wouldn't it?
>>
>>
>> I want to emphasize there than I'm speculating and extrapolating from
>> barely remembered blogs.  It's something for the OP to consider, but
>> he's going to have to decide if I'm talking rubbish or not.
>>
>> Executive summary: I dunno.
>>
>>
>>
> Lets check the JLS...
>
Actually, the JLS doesn't seem to handle this, but the JNI spec does:

<http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/jni/spec/design.html#wp17593>
> The JNI does not check for programming errors such as passing in NULL pointers or illegal argument types.
[snip]
> The programmer must not pass illegal pointers or arguments of the wrong type to JNI functions. Doing so could result in arbitrary consequences, including a corrupted system state or VM crash.

It seems to me then, if the JNI code is passing NULL to "Throw" or 
"ThrowNew", it is "undefined" behavior.

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throw null investigation bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> - 2012-07-18 10:10 -0700
  Re: throw null investigation Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-07-18 12:39 -0700
    Re: throw null investigation markspace <-@.> - 2012-07-18 13:35 -0700
      Re: throw null investigation Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-07-18 23:33 +0200
        Re: throw null investigation markspace <-@.> - 2012-07-18 14:43 -0700
          Re: throw null investigation Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-07-19 00:06 +0200
            Re: throw null investigation markspace <-@.> - 2012-07-18 15:55 -0700
              Re: throw null investigation Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-07-18 16:00 -0700
                Re: throw null investigation Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-07-18 16:16 -0700
  Re: throw null investigation Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-07-18 17:09 -0700

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