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Re: The halting problem revisited

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From	Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: The halting problem revisited
Date	Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:47:24 +0100
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On 30/03/2011 12:04, Joshua Maurice wrote:
> On Mar 29, 5:16 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On 30/03/2011 00:27, Joshua Maurice wrote:
>>> In short, Bell's theorem says that you have to have at least one of
>>> the following: 1- action at a distance, aka FTL interactions, or 2-
>>> true randomness, aka no determinalism. To a lot of physicists, both
>>> seem rather, "unintuitive", shall I say. Such is the world of quantum
>>> physics.
>>
>> You need the true randomness to prevent temporal paradox arising
>
> Are you talking about how FTL from arbitrary reference frames in
> general relativity is equivalent to a "go back in time" machine? Yes.
> I'm fully aware. If that's what you meant, then you really ought to
> have provided the context of general relativity.

The context only needs to be local and hence SR suffices.

> Obviously, both the theories of general relativity and quantum
> mechanics are incorrect in each others's domain of utility. No modern
> quantum theory is consistent with modern general relativity. If I am
> correct about what you meant to say, then I think that you are wrong.
> It's my understanding that the "local true random" and "non-local
> determinalistic" interpretations of modern quantum mechanics are /
> both/ inconsistent with general relativity, contrary to your
> insinuation just now that "local true random" is closer to a Theory Of
> Everything.
>
> Either way, way off topic segue.

One or both are going to fail at some point.
Maybe the answer will be determined by macroscopic QM superposition 
experiments ie find out *exactly* how QM turns into classical physics.

-- 
Dirk

http://www.neopax.com/technomage/ - My new book - Magick and Technology

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    Re: The halting problem revisited Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-03-30 01:16 +0100
      Re: The halting problem revisited Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-03-29 23:18 -0400
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      Re: The halting problem revisited Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-03-30 04:04 -0700
        Re: The halting problem revisited Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> - 2011-03-30 15:47 +0100

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