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Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia

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Lew wrote:
> Mayeul wrote:
>> Paka Small wrote:
>>> Lew wrote:
>>>> How exactly do you imagine that this proves a method is a class instance?
>>>>
>>>> All your code proves is that there exists a class instance that can describe
>>>> and invoke a particular method. There is nothing in your code that shows, let
>>>> alone proves "beyond any doubt", that a method is an instance of a class. It
>>>> couldn't, because a Java method is not an instance of a class.
>>> Clearly the code shows that setMethod is an instance of the class
>>> java.lang.reflect.Method
>> Indeed, it certainly does.
>>
>>> and that a method of a class is actually
>>> assigned to setMethod in this statement:
> 
> Not even close, Paka. How do you continue to get this wrong?
> 
> You have been shown the truth. You've been shown the documentation for the 
> truth, about which you got very snarky indeed: "I'm too lazy to read the 
> documentation but I'm going to argue for the wrong answer anyway."
> 
>>> setMethod =
>>> baseObjectClass.getJavaClass().getMethod(this.getSetMethodName(), new
>>> Class[]{this.type});
>> No, it does not show anything of the sort.
>>
>> setMethod is never assigned a method (and a method can never be assigned 
>> to anything anyway.)
> 
> As you have been told before, Paka. Repeatedly. Repeatedly.
> 
>> Here you show setMethod is assigned an instance of the class 
>> java.lang.reflect.Method. Instances of a class, whatever the class, are 
>> never methods. And methods are never instances of any class, whatever 
>> the class.
> 
> As you have been told before, Paka. Repeatedly. Why don't you just break down 
> and read the documentation?
> 
> Summary: What your code proves is that a variable points to an instance of a 
> class. It does not show that a method is an instance of a class. At no point 
> does your code show any treatment of any method as a class instance.
> 
> Get this right or get out of programming, Paka. "20 years of professional 
> software development experience" is only worth something if you let your 
> experience teach you something. Time to start learning, Paka.
> 

Does Paka really believe that decades of software development experience
are a good predictor of correctness on this type of issue?

If so, the matter is easily settled. I don't know the total combined
experience of the people who have publicly disagreed, but I know it is a
lot longer that 20 years, I have over 30 years of professional software
development experience myself, and I know a lot of the other posters are
very experienced programmers.

Patricia

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Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-01-25 11:23 -0800
  Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-25 15:07 -0500
  Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Paka Small <paka-en@tumia.org> - 2012-02-04 08:43 -0800
    Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-02-07 08:22 -0500
  Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Paka Small <paka-en@tumia.org> - 2012-02-04 08:48 -0800
    Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-04 23:08 -0800
      Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Paka Small <paka-en@tumia.org> - 2012-02-05 03:13 -0800
        Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-05 11:45 -0800
          Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Paka Small <paka-en@tumia.org> - 2012-02-05 14:44 -0800
            Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 01:50 -0800
              Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Paka Small <paka-en@tumia.org> - 2012-02-06 12:00 -0800
                Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 17:13 -0800
                Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Paka Small <paka-en@tumia.org> - 2012-02-06 22:20 -0800
                Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Mayeul <mayeul.marguet@free.fr> - 2012-02-07 14:03 +0100
                Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 10:54 -0800
                Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Paka Small <paka-en@tumia.org> - 2012-02-07 12:38 -0800
                Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 16:42 -0800
                Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-02-07 12:53 -0800
                Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-02-07 13:32 -0800
        Re: Instance java.lang.Object.getClass() of Class Java Method on OO Tumia Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-05 11:51 -0800

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