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Re: Java vs C++

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On 2/7/11 3:54 PM, Peter Duniho wrote:
> [...]
> A long time ago, I worked on a project that used a form of interpreted
> byte code in which the linker did exactly that. In that situation, the
> reason we were using the byte code in the first place was for
> compression, to help the program fit in memory (it was a relatively
> large program, running on Mac and Windows computers without virtual
> memory). So the "quoting" feature was important enough to make it worth
> doing.
>
> In fact, that feature did not rely on C++ templates at all. We were
> coding in plain C, and it detected any code that was essentially
> copy/paste or nearly so.

I guess I should also mention that the interpreter itself supported the 
quoting feature, so it was a lot simpler to rewrite any code that needed 
to be shared: just remove the actual code and replace with the "quote" 
instruction referring to the quoted code.  There also was no 
multi-threading for the code back in those days.

It'd be a bit more complicated for a linker to accomplish a similar 
feature, but it's not like it's an intractable problem.  I think turning 
the quote into a function call would solve most issues, if not 
everything, and of course if you quote an entire function, that's even 
easier.

Pete

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