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On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:33:24 -0700, Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> wrote:

>Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>> Lew wrote:

[snip]

>>> <http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-15.html>
>>> <http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-15.html#jls-15.7>
>>> <http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-5.html#jls-5.6>
>>> <http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-5.html#jls-5.6.2>
>>
>>       Whereas in a text, it might be "Chapter 3: Datatypes and
>> Operations".  A bit simpler, no?
>
>No.
>
>One place to find all the answers, authoritative and final. Versus many places 
>of dubious quality that might at best indirectly hint at the answer. Victory: JLS.

     Authoritative and final:
          "One Ring to rule them all
           And in the Darkness bind them."

>But you have a bug up your arse about the JLS and I recognize that from your 
>continued efforts to speak against its use.

     Actually, you do.

     Perish the thought that someone starting in Java might not find
the JLS all that readable.  Perish the thought that someone might be
able to explain something better than is done in the JLS.

     You prevaricate very well.  (prevaricate: to selectively tell the
truth in order to mislead)  I suggest that a Java newbie start with an
introductory text and use the JLS later.

>I don't demand that anyone read the JLS. I just point out that it has the 
>answers, that for the most part it's readable and that the more obscure parts 
>are amenable to study, and that it's worthwhile. Those who excoriate its use, 
>as opposed to, say, recommending that one work with additional material as 
>well, are leading the rest astray. I really don't understand this rabid 
>rejection of such a useful resource.

     But we do not reject it.  By stating that we do, you get to score
points.  That sort of behaviour has gotten old.

>Those of you without an irrational fear of the JLS should judge for 
>yourselves. Don't be afraid of it because the Genes of the world are trying to 
>frighten you away from its use. Oh, don't use it as your only source, not even 
>after you've gained familiarity with it and with Java, but by all means use 
>it. Gene is wrong to discourage that.

     Again, I do not do that.

     Lew, why do you keep turning things into unpleasant arguments?
There is a big difference between disagreeing and being disagreeable.
How about trying the former for a change?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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    Re: floating point Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 13:21 -0700
      Re: floating point Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-24 13:50 -0700
        Re: floating point Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-07-25 06:33 -0700
          Re: floating point Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-25 10:44 -0700
            Re: floating point Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 17:09 -0700
              Re: floating point Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-25 17:42 -0700
                Re: floating point Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-07-26 03:15 +0200
          Re: floating point Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-25 21:05 -0400
    Re: floating point Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2012-07-24 20:34 +0000
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      Re: floating point Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-25 10:54 -0400
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