Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.java.programmer > #17335

Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML??

Show all headers | View raw

  To: Patricia Shanahan
From: Arne Vajhoj <arne@vajhoej.dk>

On 8/4/2012 10:45 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> On 8/4/2012 1:17 AM, Wanja Gayk wrote:
>> In article <EvSdnXhPjOT-IY_NnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>> pats@acm.org says...
>>
>>> I think of programming languages as tools, not philosophies.
>>
>> You can use a excavator to dig a hole and you could use your old hand
>> shovel, but you would not try to grab and move the excavator's arm with
>> our hands to dig a hole, just because that's the way you operated your
>> old hand shovel for the past 10 years, and you're used to that.
>>
>> Both are different tools that use the same method (digging) to do the
>> same job (creating a hole), but they want to be used the way their
>> inventors have imagined, not the way you have used another tool
>> previously. It may still work though, but I doubt it's the brightest
>> idea.
>
> There are indeed some things that are really necessary for effective use
> of a given tool. I put the sharp end of my chisel against the wood, and
> tap the blunt end with a mallet. I'm sure everyone using a wood chisel
> and a mallet does that the same way round.
>
> The analogy for the situation that started this sub-thread is as though
> the excavator were delivered with green paint, and most excavators of
> that model were painted green. A particular user has a lot of
> hole-related tools such as pile drivers and other models of excavators,
> and choose to paint all of them blue to avoid the inconvenience of
> keeping different paint colors around.
>
> He asked a question about lubricating the excavator, but some people
> take one look at a photo of his blue excavator and tell him that it
> should be green, that he will never be a capable excavator user unless
> he paints it green, and that green paint is the excavator way.

That is a lousy analogy.

There should not be any real impact due to different colors of the excavators.

There are real (negative!) impact of using:
- different coding conventions
- different diagram symbols

Arne

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
--- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24

Back to comp.lang.java.programmer | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Arne Vajhøj" <arne.vajhøj@1:261/38.remove-10ae-this> - 2012-07-27 18:40 +0000
  Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-10ae-this> - 2012-07-27 18:41 +0000
    Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? jebblue <n@n.nnn> - 2012-07-28 11:32 -0500
    Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Wanja Gayk" <wanja.gayk@1:261/38.remove-5qr-this> - 2012-08-04 18:41 +0000
      Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-5qr-this> - 2012-08-04 18:41 +0000
        Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "John B. Matthews" <john.b..matthews@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
        Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Arne Vajhøj" <arne.vajhøj@1:261/38.remove-p82-this> - 2012-08-08 06:20 +0000
    Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Arne Vajhøj" <arne.vajhøj@1:261/38.remove-p82-this> - 2012-08-08 06:20 +0000
  Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Gene Wirchenko" <gene.wirchenko@1:261/38.remove-10ae-this> - 2012-07-27 18:41 +0000

csiph-web