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Re: the Olson Timezone Database

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On 2/15/2012 11:45 AM, markspace wrote:
> On 2/14/2012 6:28 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
>> The Olson timezone database is no more. An astrology company,
>> Astrolabe, sued him, and he did not have the resources to fight back.
>>
>> So for now, nobody is keeping track of timezone changes. Java uses
>> that database.
>>
>> A hope Anonymous soon gets round to putting these unprintables out of
>> business.
>>
>> see http://mindprod
>
>
> I'd rather not see your mindprod site, as I prefer reliable sources.
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tz_database#2011_lawsuit>
>
> "2011 Lawsuit
>
> On September 30, 2011, a lawsuit, Astrolabe, Inc. v. Olson et
> al.,[11][12] was filed concerning copyright in the database. As a
> result, on October 6, 2011, the database's maintenance (mailing list)
> and dissemination (FTP site) operations were shut down.[13] The case
> revolves around the use by the database maintainers of the atlases The
> American Atlas by Thomas G. Shanks and The International Atlas by Thomas
> G. Shanks and Rique Pottenger. It specifically complains of unauthorised
> reproduction of the atlases' data in the timezone mailing list archive
> and in some auxiliary link collections maintained with the database, but
> doesn't actually point at the database itself. The complaint relates
> only to the compilation of historical timezone data, and does not cover
> current tzdata world timezone tables.[12][14][15] The tz database
> clearly references its sources, including the atlas, in comments,
> allowing the extent of use of the data to be evaluated.[16][17]
> [edit] Move to ICANN
>
> ICANN took responsibility for the maintenance of the database on October
> 14, 2011.[18] The full database (including allegedly-infringing
> sections) and a description of current and future plans for its
> maintenance are available online from IANA.[19]"
>
>
> So the upshot is that it got moved to IANA, and the lawsuit really just
> complains about some data in the mailing list and links to other sites.
> The database itself is fine. Do some research next time before going off
> half-cocked.

And worse - Roedy has not corrected his page yet - a half day
after being told by several people that the information is
incorrect.

Arne

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the Olson Timezone Database Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-02-14 18:28 -0800
  Re: the Olson Timezone Database Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-02-14 23:01 -0500
    Re: the Olson Timezone Database Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-02-14 20:41 -0800
      Re: the Olson Timezone Database Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-02-15 07:53 -0500
        Re: the Olson Timezone Database David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> - 2012-02-15 08:45 -0500
          Re: the Olson Timezone Database RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@spamweary.invalid> - 2012-02-15 17:31 +0000
            Re: the Olson Timezone Database RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@spamweary.invalid> - 2012-02-15 17:35 +0000
              Re: the Olson Timezone Database David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> - 2012-02-15 13:48 -0500
              Re: the Olson Timezone Database Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-15 14:19 -0500
            Re: the Olson Timezone Database Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-15 13:46 -0500
              Re: the Olson Timezone Database Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-15 14:03 -0500
      Re: the Olson Timezone Database Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-15 20:20 -0500
    Re: the Olson Timezone Database Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-02-14 21:05 -0800
      Re: the Olson Timezone Database RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@SpamWeary.invalid> - 2012-02-16 00:01 +0000
  Re: the Olson Timezone Database markspace <-@.> - 2012-02-15 08:45 -0800
    Re: the Olson Timezone Database Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-15 20:23 -0500
      Re: the Olson Timezone Database Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-02-15 21:44 -0500
  Re: the Olson Timezone Database Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 09:51 -0800
    Re: the Olson Timezone Database Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2012-02-16 18:27 +1100
      Re: the Olson Timezone Database Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 11:24 -0800
        Re: the Olson Timezone Database David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> - 2012-02-16 16:16 -0500
          Re: the Olson Timezone Database Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 13:31 -0800
          Re: the Olson Timezone Database Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-02-16 20:31 -0500
            Re: the Olson Timezone Database Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-02-16 20:18 -0800
        Re: the Olson Timezone Database Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2012-02-18 00:59 +1100
      Re: the Olson Timezone Database Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-16 18:27 -0500
  Re: the Olson Timezone Database Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-15 20:19 -0500
    Re: the Olson Timezone Database Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 17:26 -0800
      Re: the Olson Timezone Database Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-16 18:24 -0500
  Re: the Olson Timezone Database - it's back! Fredrik Jonson <fredrik@jonson.org> - 2012-02-23 07:11 +0000
    Re: the Olson Timezone Database - it's back! Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-02-23 00:31 -0800
      Re: the Olson Timezone Database - it's back! Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2012-02-23 21:27 +0000
        Re: the Olson Timezone Database - it's back! Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-02-23 14:06 -0800

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