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Re: Volunteer for Java Development

Date 2011-12-27 18:09 -0500
From Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Volunteer for Java Development
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On 12/23/2011 6:47 PM, Qu0ll wrote:
> "Lew" wrote in message
> news:31036852.221.1324660513125.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prfi34...
>> Spring sucks.
>>
>> Why not use good stuff instead?
>
> Care to elaborate on that postulation?

Spring today is a bundle of many different pieces of software.

Spring started as a simple DI/IoC framework. But then they started
adding stuff. They must somehow want to make it possible writing
a full app only using Java SE and Spring.

The added stuff are of varying quality.

It has certainly become very huge with the consequence of being
difficult to keep overview.

Certain things has been replaced by standard features in
Java EE 5 and 6.

Some Spring users go completely overboard in using Spring
resulting in very cluttered code.

I don't think Spring sucks.

But I do think that some of Spring sucks.

And I think that a large portion of actual Spring usage
sucks per the above reasons.

Arne

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Volunteer for Java Development Sarkar <virtexamit@gmail.com> - 2011-12-22 09:25 -0800
  Re: Volunteer for Java Development Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-22 14:40 -0800
    Re: Volunteer for Java Development Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-12-22 21:59 -0800
      Re: Volunteer for Java Development Sarkar <virtexamit@gmail.com> - 2011-12-23 03:46 -0800
        Re: Volunteer for Java Development Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-12-23 09:15 -0800
          Re: Volunteer for Java Development "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2011-12-24 10:47 +1100
            Re: Volunteer for Java Development Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-12-24 12:33 -0400
            Re: Volunteer for Java Development Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-12-24 10:06 -0800
              Re: Volunteer for Java Development Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-27 03:29 +0000
                Re: Volunteer for Java Development Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-12-27 13:28 -0400
              Re: Volunteer for Java Development Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-27 18:13 -0500
                Re: Volunteer for Java Development Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-12-28 01:07 -0800
                Re: Volunteer for Java Development Sarkar <virtexamit@gmail.com> - 2012-01-01 22:37 -0800
            Re: Volunteer for Java Development Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-27 18:09 -0500
          Re: Volunteer for Java Development Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-23 20:54 -0800
            Re: Volunteer for Java Development Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2011-12-24 00:18 -0800
            Re: Volunteer for Java Development Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-12-24 11:09 -0400
              Re: Volunteer for Java Development Sarkar <virtexamit@gmail.com> - 2011-12-24 07:26 -0800
              Re: Volunteer for Java Development Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-27 00:53 +0000
                Re: Volunteer for Java Development Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-12-26 22:23 -0400
                Re: Volunteer for Java Development Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-27 18:24 -0500
                Re: Volunteer for Java Development Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> - 2011-12-27 16:13 -0800
            Re: Volunteer for Java Development Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-12-24 10:10 -0800
              Re: Volunteer for Java Development Sarkar <virtexamit@gmail.com> - 2011-12-25 06:45 -0800
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