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Re: What's the deal with deadlocks

Date	2011-04-19 21:18 -0700
From	Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.java.programmer, comp.lang.c++
Subject	Re: What's the deal with deadlocks
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On 4/19/2011 2:10 PM, Joe Snodgrass wrote:
...
> You got a concurrent programming project, let's say in C++, and you're
> climbing the walls, because the results are unpredictable, the
> debugger shows nothing and the code looks fine.
...

Big error. Debuggers are just tools for collecting information. They are
neither in charge of debugging, nor responsible for doing it.
Programmers are.

Climbing the walls does not help.

Thinking, reviewing code, formulating testable hypotheses and testing
them are all far more useful.

Patricia

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What's the deal with deadlocks Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-17 09:15 -0700
  Re: What's the deal with deadlocks markspace <-@.> - 2011-04-17 09:35 -0700
    Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-04-17 13:14 -0400
  Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-04-17 09:45 -0700
  Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-17 19:30 +0200
  Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-04-17 15:35 -0500
    Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-04-18 08:41 +1200
    Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-18 11:59 -0700
      Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-04-18 16:22 -0400
        Re: What's the deal with deadlocks "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 22:32 +0200
          Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-04-19 09:53 +1200
            Re: What's the deal with deadlocks "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 01:21 +0200
            Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-19 14:10 -0700
              Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-04-19 23:01 -0400
                Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-20 17:00 -0700
                Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-04-21 00:29 -0400
              Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-04-19 21:18 -0700
        Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-04-19 00:50 +0100
  Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-04-17 14:01 -0700
  Re: What's the deal with deadlocks Noah Roberts <dont@email.me> - 2011-04-18 16:59 -0700

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