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Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot

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Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>> Why don't the vendors certify for the later Java in anything less than five years?
>>
>> It's the same question.  Pushing it back one level doesn't answer it.
> 
> Usually app server versions and specific JVM versions are tied.
> 
> It is even in the specs.
> 
> Java EE 6 spec:
> 
> This specification requires that containers provide a Java Compatible™ 
> runtime environment, as defined by the Java Platform, Standard Edition, 
> v6 specification (Java SE).
> ...

And?

That says nothing about the vendors or why they lag the specs for so long.  It is a summary of the specs that they might lag.

Mind you, I don't think it's a bad thing to be conservative in platform migration.  I've worked in Enterprise Java for a fair bit and it's no small thing for, say, a government agency that processes 100 million documents in a week to change platforms.  My earlier comment about EOL as a guarantee of stability is not entirely a joke, and certainly not the fictional kind.

It's also no mean feat to implement a Java EE spec in a way that lets such an application work successfully.

All of which raises the question as to why there needs to be an upgraded Java version in the first place.  Maybe the right thing to do is to let a language specification stagnate, at least for rather longer than programmers are used to imagining.  Maybe basing large-scale mission-critical systems on a sessile platform is the wise choice.

-- 
Lew

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  Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-11 16:20 -0800
    Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-11 16:38 -0800
      Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-11-12 06:36 -0400
        Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-12 09:19 -0500
          Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-12 10:07 -0800
            Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-12 17:09 -0500
            Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-11-14 06:25 -0400
              Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-14 06:45 -0800
                Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-14 23:28 +0100
                Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-15 20:34 -0500
                Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-15 22:28 -0800
                Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-16 07:43 -0700
                Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot kensi <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.de> - 2011-11-16 12:53 -0500
                Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2011-11-16 12:20 -0600
                Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-16 14:27 -0700
                Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-16 14:04 -0800
                Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-17 10:05 -0700
                Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-16 18:57 -0500
        Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-12 09:23 -0500
    Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-13 09:12 -0800
      Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-13 12:39 -0500
        Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-13 20:13 +0000
          Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-13 15:43 -0500
            Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-13 21:06 +0000
              Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-13 16:16 -0500
        Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2011-11-14 08:03 -0600
          Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-14 06:51 -0800
  Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-12 04:53 -0800
  Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-12 14:02 -0800
    Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-12 17:09 -0500
      Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-12 19:14 -0800
        Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-12 20:56 -0700
        Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-13 05:08 -0800
        Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-13 10:08 -0500
          Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-13 08:08 -0800
            Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-13 12:23 -0500
        Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-13 09:23 -0800
          Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-13 12:27 -0500
          Re: Java 8 Lambda binary snapshot Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-13 11:08 -0800

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