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How to install only Java plugin in browsers (from existing Java installation)?

Started bySvenfischer2@email.com (Sven Fischer)
First post2012-09-27 14:27 +0000
Last post2012-10-12 00:10 -0700
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  How to install only Java plugin in browsers (from existing Java installation)? Svenfischer2@email.com (Sven Fischer) - 2012-09-27 14:27 +0000
    Re: How to install only Java plugin in browsers (from existing Java installation)? Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> - 2012-09-27 12:14 -0400
      Re: How to install only Java plugin in browsers (from existing Java installation)? Sven Fischer <Svenfischer2@email.com> - 2012-09-27 18:26 +0200
        Re: How to install only Java plugin in browsers (from existing Java installation)? markspace <-@.> - 2012-09-27 09:58 -0700
          Re: How to install only Java plugin in browsers (from existing Java installation)? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-09-27 13:55 -0400
            Re: How to install only Java plugin in browsers (from existing Java installation)? markspace <-@.> - 2012-09-27 12:44 -0700
        Re: How to install only Java plugin in browsers (from existing Java installation)? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-09-27 18:57 -0700
      Re: How to install only Java plugin in browsers (from existing Java installation)? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-09-27 18:59 -0700
      Re: How to install only Java plugin in browsers (from existing Java installation)? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-10-12 00:10 -0700

#2111 — How to install only Java plugin in browsers (from existing Java installation)?

FromSvenfischer2@email.com (Sven Fischer)
Date2012-09-27 14:27 +0000
SubjectHow to install only Java plugin in browsers (from existing Java installation)?
Message-ID<50646249$0$6565$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net>
I have already installed Java J2SE/JDK v7 on my Windows 7 system.
It works fine.

However in my Firefox and my IntExplorer 9 browser there are NO corresponding Java plugins.

Is there a way to install ONLY these browser plugins?
In other words I don't want to re-install java J2SE/JDK completely but only the Java plugins (afterwards/additionally).

Is this possible?

If yes: How exactly should I proceed?

Sven

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#2112

FromTim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov>
Date2012-09-27 12:14 -0400
Message-ID<tlu868ht3pcothbr4n5352293r280gk35c@4ax.com>
In reply to#2111
Svenfischer2@email.com (Sven Fischer) wrote:

>Is there a way to install ONLY these browser plugins?
>In other words I don't want to re-install java J2SE/JDK 
> completely but only the Java plugins (afterwards/additionally).

The browsers use the JRE (Java Runtime Environment). That contains
what's needed to run Java programs, but not to write them. The JDK
(Java Development Kit) you already downloaded allows for writing Java
programs.

You can download the JRE at java.com. 

-- 
Tim Slattery
Slattery_T@bls.gov

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#2113

FromSven Fischer <Svenfischer2@email.com>
Date2012-09-27 18:26 +0200
Message-ID<pgv8685s6r4llsckpp9o35p07gabcs3pei@4ax.com>
In reply to#2112
You didn't understand me:

JRE and JDK are already installed but not the plugins.


On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:14:15 -0400, Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov>
wrote:

>Svenfischer2@email.com (Sven Fischer) wrote:
>
>>Is there a way to install ONLY these browser plugins?
>>In other words I don't want to re-install java J2SE/JDK 
>> completely but only the Java plugins (afterwards/additionally).
>
>The browsers use the JRE (Java Runtime Environment). That contains
>what's needed to run Java programs, but not to write them. The JDK
>(Java Development Kit) you already downloaded allows for writing Java
>programs.
>
>You can download the JRE at java.com.

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#2115

Frommarkspace <-@.>
Date2012-09-27 09:58 -0700
Message-ID<k420k8$am3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2113
On 9/27/2012 9:26 AM, Sven Fischer wrote:
> You didn't understand me:
>
> JRE and JDK are already installed but not the plugins.


I think Tim was saying that you don't need the JDK, just the JRE.  The 
JDK is kinda irrelevant to plugins.

I'm not sure but I think the browsers have disable the Java 7 plugin due 
to a serious security flaw in that particular version.  My browser 
insists on using the Java 6 plugin.  I'd suggest you download the Java 6 
JRE.  That should allow to install the plugin.  (It's no problem having 
two versions of Java on the same machine; it works just fine.)



>
>
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:14:15 -0400, Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov>
> wrote:
>
>> Svenfischer2@email.com (Sven Fischer) wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way to install ONLY these browser plugins?
>>> In other words I don't want to re-install java J2SE/JDK
>>> completely but only the Java plugins (afterwards/additionally).
>>
>> The browsers use the JRE (Java Runtime Environment). That contains
>> what's needed to run Java programs, but not to write them. The JDK
>> (Java Development Kit) you already downloaded allows for writing Java
>> programs.
>>
>> You can download the JRE at java.com.
>

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#2116

FromEric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid>
Date2012-09-27 13:55 -0400
Message-ID<k423u3$2v9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2115
On 9/27/2012 12:58 PM, markspace wrote:
> On 9/27/2012 9:26 AM, Sven Fischer wrote:
>> You didn't understand me:
>>
>> JRE and JDK are already installed but not the plugins.
>
>
> I think Tim was saying that you don't need the JDK, just the JRE.  The
> JDK is kinda irrelevant to plugins.
>
> I'm not sure but I think the browsers have disable the Java 7 plugin due
> to a serious security flaw in that particular version.  My browser
> insists on using the Java 6 plugin.  I'd suggest you download the Java 6
> JRE.  That should allow to install the plugin.  (It's no problem having
> two versions of Java on the same machine; it works just fine.)

     FWIW, my 15.0.1 Firefox runs 10.7.2.10 Java just fine (when
I let it; I've taken to running with the plugin disabled most of
the time).  But I'm on Windows XP, while Sven's using Windows 7;
it seems probable that his troubles have more to do with the O/S
environment (bitness?) than with browser-makers' policy choices.

-- 
Eric Sosman
esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid

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#2117

Frommarkspace <-@.>
Date2012-09-27 12:44 -0700
Message-ID<k42ab4$c5k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2116
On 9/27/2012 10:55 AM, Eric Sosman wrote:

>
>      FWIW, my 15.0.1 Firefox runs 10.7.2.10 Java just fine (when
> I let it; I've taken to running with the plugin disabled most of
> the time).  But I'm on Windows XP, while Sven's using Windows 7;
> it seems probable that his troubles have more to do with the O/S
> environment (bitness?) than with browser-makers' policy choices.
>


I'm on Windows 7 64 bit (Home premium I think) and Firefox 15.0.1.  I'm 
like 90% sure that when I upgraded to FF 15 it marked the Java 7 plugin 
as incompatible and made me use the Java 6 version.  This could be a 64 
bit versus 32 bit issue too: I'm pretty sure I have 64 bit only Java 7, 
and 32 bit Java 6.

Or I could be off my rocker here.  Too many bits which all look alike 
over here to truly keep this stuff straight.  Engineering ain't help 
desk.  If I have a problem I figure it out and fix it, I don't make a 
blog with pretty pictures so other folks can fix theirs.

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#2121

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2012-09-27 18:57 -0700
Message-ID<5u0a68tilpojbr49snn7qpcmm4lqmivtm8@4ax.com>
In reply to#2113
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:26:46 +0200, Sven Fischer
<Svenfischer2@email.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :

>You didn't understand me:
>
>JRE and JDK are already installed but not the plugins.

The only browser that needs an extra DLL to let Java run is Chrome.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/googlechrome.html
see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jre.html
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jdk.html
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
The iPhone 5 is a low end Rolex.

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#2122

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2012-09-27 18:59 -0700
Message-ID<021a68tr5rkmmjhgt189pk502t3nm2n64b@4ax.com>
In reply to#2112
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:14:15 -0400, Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>The browsers use the JRE (Java Runtime Environment). That contains
>what's needed to run Java programs, but not to write them. The JDK
>(Java Development Kit) you already downloaded allows for writing Java
>programs.

Browsers are usually 32 bit, so you need to install two JREs, a 32-bit
for browsers and a 64-bit for command line.
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
The iPhone 5 is a low end Rolex.

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#2152

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2012-10-12 00:10 -0700
Message-ID<vfgf78lfaqnsjhn2aevcb59jlic19207b1@4ax.com>
In reply to#2112
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:14:15 -0400, Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>
>The browsers use the JRE (Java Runtime Environment). That contains
>what's needed to run Java programs, but not to write them. The JDK
>(Java Development Kit) you already downloaded allows for writing Java
>programs.

You want the JRE, not the JDK.  Uninstall the JDK and install the JRE

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jre.html

If you use chrome, you must install their version of the JRE on the
Chrome site or the hooks won't get set up correctly. Thereafter you
can use the Oracle version of the JRE
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
The iPhone 5 is a low end Rolex.

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