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Re: No Jobs for new computer guys :-(

Date 2012-08-16 08:47 -0700
From Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.help
Subject Re: No Jobs for new computer guys :-(
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On 8/16/2012 7:50 AM, Kevin Doyle wrote:
...
> I have started two open source projects http://code.google.com/p/preachan/ and
> http://code.google.com/p/thales-goal-keeper-radar-sim/
...

I suggested joining an open source project, not starting one.

Starting your own project may be fun if you have spare time, but unless
you have identified a serious unmet need, and are very lucky, it is
unlikely to get you noticed or hired. There are far too many
one-programmer zero-user open source projects. Are your projects
attracting users, preferably users who are likely to have programming
jobs available? If not, they are a hobby, not career building.

Consider the following process:

1. Pick a type of programming you would like to do, and that is
available where you live, or in an area to which you could move.

2. Find the most important open source infrastructure projects related
to, and used in, that type of programming. You are looking for
well-established projects with expert, experienced programmers already
working on them, and many organizations depending on them.

3. Join one of those projects.

In a tight job market, who you know matters. The established experts on
a piece of infrastructure are people who get asked whether they know of
a good junior programmer who might be looking for a job. The more they
see your name on bug fixes and useful contributions to discussions the
more likely they are to think of you in that situation.

Also, mentioning an open source project on your resume will be far more
effective if it is one that the hiring manager knows about.

Patricia

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No Jobs for new computer guys :-( Kevin Doyle <kfrdoyle@gmail.com> - 2012-08-14 11:35 -0700
  Re: No Jobs for new computer guys :-( Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-08-14 16:34 -0700
    Re: No Jobs for new computer guys :-( Kevin Doyle <kfrdoyle@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 14:01 -0700
      Re: No Jobs for new computer guys :-( Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-08-15 14:17 -0700
        Re: No Jobs for new computer guys :-( Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 14:31 -0700
        Re: No Jobs for new computer guys :-( Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-08-15 19:08 -0700
          Re: No Jobs for new computer guys :-( Kevin Doyle <kfrdoyle@gmail.com> - 2012-08-16 07:50 -0700
            Re: No Jobs for new computer guys :-( Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-08-16 08:47 -0700

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