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Re: Eclipse And NetBeans

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On 12-04-26 08:31 PM, Lew wrote:
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> I do recommend that Java projects universally use Ant, though by "universally" and "always" I never mean universally or always (and never mean never by "never"). Maven blows chunks and nothing else works as well.
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> I do not recommend using *only* Ant for builds and deployment. Feel free to add glue scripts (bash, Python, whatever), as indicated by circumstances.
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> I suggest that your colleague's ill-advised changes should have undergone the rigors of review and test before commitment that all code changes must undergo. The problem wasn't with Ant there, any more than it would have been Java's fault if they'd changed Java code, failed to test it adequately or even to have it reviewed, checked it in, and disappeared.
> 
> But your examples are telling, if not pertinent to Java. Have you more to say on this specific to Java projects?
> 
For Java projects (SE or EE) I wouldn't myself usually much care who
uses what IDE. The only caveats I have there are that each developer be
quite proficient with the IDE that they pick (rather than choosing
company time to experiment with an unfamiliar one), and that if a novice
programmer is not really all that proficient with any IDE that they
select one that most of the team is using.

The main rule I have in team environments involving intermediate or
senior people is that you get to pick your tools until such a time as
you demonstrate that you're wasting team time by trying to make
something inferior work. At which point you get told what you're going
to use. I've been down that road numerous times, sometimes with me being
the guilty party.

I'm with you on Ant. One may as well do this, you want a build script
for CI anyhow.

AHS
-- 
A fly was very close to being called a "land," cause that's what they do
half the time.
-- Mitch Hedberg

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Eclipse And NetBeans Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-04-19 16:35 -0400
  Re: Eclipse And NetBeans William Colls <william.colls@rogers.com> - 2012-04-19 17:18 -0400
    Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-19 17:36 -0700
  Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-19 19:42 -0300
    Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Robert Tomsick <robert@tomsick.net> - 2012-04-25 17:09 -0400
      Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-04-26 07:30 -0700
        Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-26 18:05 -0300
          Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 15:02 -0700
            Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-26 20:00 -0300
              Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 16:31 -0700
                Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-27 16:15 -0300
          Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Robert Tomsick <robert@tomsick.net> - 2012-04-27 13:07 -0400
        Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-10 15:28 -0700
        Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-10 15:33 -0700
  Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Allen l <debare21@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 18:38 -0700
  Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-09 19:11 -0700
    Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-05-15 09:43 -0400
    Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-05-15 09:45 -0400

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