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Re: Eclipse And NetBeans

From Robert Tomsick <robert@tomsick.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.help
Subject Re: Eclipse And NetBeans
Date 2012-04-27 13:07 -0400
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Arved Sandstrom wrote:

> On 12-04-26 11:30 AM, Lew wrote:
>> Robert Tomsick wrote:
>>> I've worked on projects where different members of the team used
>>> different
>>> IDEs. Those projects did not exist in that state for long.
>>
>> Why in the world would it matter that different people use different
>> editors or IDEs? That makes no sense.
>>
>> I have worked on teams for years where people used different IDEs and
>> editors. It didn't cause problems unless either management objected
>> (never for any solid engineering reason) or people checked IDE artifacts
>> into source control.
>>
>> There's absolutely nothing wrong with each team member using a different
>> editor or IDE, and much right.
>>
> Often enough - we are not necessarily discussing vanilla Java
> development here - one IDE will do certain tasks better (maybe much
> better) than other IDEs. These certain tasks are required by the job at
> hand. Rather than allow some aficionado of IDE X to flail away trying to
> make something work, when it would definitely work easily in IDE Y, you
> simply step in as the team lead and mandate IDE Y.

I didn't mean to imply that it was necessary to ban the practice nor that 
the cases I had in mind were ended with a mandate.

The above is a pretty good explanation of what happened in the two cases 
that I have in mind.  In the most recent one it was an issue of support 
for a particular plugin which was useful to the team; the plugin existed 
for Eclipse and worked beautifully there.  Could somebody have done their 
job with NetBeans?  Sure.  But they'd be basically using it as a dumb text 
editor for the formats that the plugin offered full tool support for, and 
as a result would take longer to do the same tasks.

This does sorta go along with the "pick the right tool for the job" thing, 
but yeah, that's pretty much what I had in mind.  In both cases, BTW, the 
developer(s) in question switched without being forced to.

I agree though: for plain Java projects there's really not any major 
downside that I can think of to using different IDEs except for the whole 
IDE-artifacts bit mentioned elsewhere in this thread.  And perhaps an 
increase in internal documentation, etc... but that obviously depends on 
the business.

-R

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Eclipse And NetBeans Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-04-19 16:35 -0400
  Re: Eclipse And NetBeans William Colls <william.colls@rogers.com> - 2012-04-19 17:18 -0400
    Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-19 17:36 -0700
  Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-19 19:42 -0300
    Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Robert Tomsick <robert@tomsick.net> - 2012-04-25 17:09 -0400
      Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-04-26 07:30 -0700
        Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-26 18:05 -0300
          Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 15:02 -0700
            Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-26 20:00 -0300
              Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 16:31 -0700
                Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-27 16:15 -0300
          Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Robert Tomsick <robert@tomsick.net> - 2012-04-27 13:07 -0400
        Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-10 15:28 -0700
        Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-10 15:33 -0700
  Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Allen l <debare21@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 18:38 -0700
  Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-09 19:11 -0700
    Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-05-15 09:43 -0400
    Re: Eclipse And NetBeans Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-05-15 09:45 -0400

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