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| From | Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.help |
| Subject | Re: Free computer books |
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| Organization | Public Usenet Newsgroup Access |
| Date | 2011-10-10 14:06 -0300 |
On 11-10-09 11:59 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 23:03:37 -0300, Arved Sandstrom > <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> wrote: > > [snip] > >> Although I could be badly mistaken, I have a theory about programming >> education in general. My gut feeling is that the natural programmers - >> the ones with real aptitude - won't be significantly affected by the >> quality of teaching materials. This discussion does not apply to them. > > How do you know? It might be that someone who would be a natural > gets caught on the one point wrong. How many times have you been > stuck on a problem and someone points out a solution that you would > not have come up with in a long time? After all, we have newsgroups. I said "significantly" affected. There's leeway in that statement for occasionally struggling with crap or non-existent documentation...or even posing a question on a NG or mailing list. The entire thing is a spectrum. Obviously even a "natural" benefits from high-quality documentation (which is all that educational material is, and vice versa). The other strength that above-average or great programmers have is, that the more "natural" they are, the better they are at recognizing and discarding tripe. Complete novice or substandard coders suffer from not recognizing absence of information and dubious information, just as much as they suffer from poorly-presented correct and complete information. You or I or someone else with some experience and ability might frequently think "whoa, that can't be right" or "wait a sec, buddy didn't even mention anything about _that_"...a novice won't do that. > I have taught newbies. Getting them enough knowledge so that > they can continue on their own is critical. It is also tougher than > it looks, especially if there is no two-way communication (as, say, > with a book). I'll take your word for it. That all makes sense. I haven't taught newbies, although often enough I have to do end-of-contract knowledge transfer to internal/staff developers...and often enough that feels like teaching newbies. > [snip] > > Sincerely, > > Gene Wirchenko AHS -- I tend to watch a little TV... Court TV, once in a while. Some of the cases I get interested in. -- O. J. Simpson
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