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Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ?

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On 8/21/2012 5:03 AM, Timothy Madden wrote:
> On 08/20/2012 07:40 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>> On 8/20/2012 9:09 AM, Timothy Madden wrote:
>> ...
>>> I don't appreciate coding conventions either. For once, they are
>>> mischievously named "conventions", "style" or "guidelines", but if you
>>> don't follow them, you can't work in project ... which makes them hard
>>> rules, not conventions.
>>
>> I do think a project should have rules, not conventions. I don't care
>> much what they are, as long as visible indent reflects logical nesting.
>
> Some programmers already have a style that they feel comfortable working
> with, that they are used with. For them the "project should have rules,
> though I don't care what they are" attitude is not good enough. A
> different style is too annoying and distracts you from your work, and
> chances to get a project that enforces exactly your style are slim.
>
> This is why these "conventions" should be choosen carefully and should
> be limited to a minimum of rules like:
> 	"use either spaces or a tab size of 8, an indent of +4, and use
>           braces on their own line",
> and otherwise let the programmers be creative and flexible, instead of
> showing them a long document full of rules.

In your ideal world, what would happen when Tom needs to change a class
that Harry wrote? They disagree about just about everything except
indentation.

Would the class end up with most identifiers following Harry's
preferences, but a couple following Tom's preferences? What if Tom finds
Harry's style annoying and distracting? Will Joe, who later needs to
study the class, have to cope with two conventions in the same file?

Patricia

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Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Timothy Madden <terminatorul@gmail.com> - 2012-08-14 15:23 +0300
  Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-08-14 08:45 -0400
    Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-08-14 06:16 -0700
      Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-08-14 10:52 -0400
  Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-14 09:05 -0400
  Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-08-14 16:31 -0700
    Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Timothy Madden <terminatorul@gmail.com> - 2012-08-16 16:39 +0300
      Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-08-16 11:51 -0400
        Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Timothy Madden <terminatorul@gmail.com> - 2012-08-17 15:08 +0300
          Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-08-17 11:26 -0700
            Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-08-17 12:53 -0700
              Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-08-17 12:58 -0700
                Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-08-17 13:27 -0700
                Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Timothy Madden <terminatorul@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 19:09 +0300
                Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-08-20 09:40 -0700
                Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Timothy Madden <terminatorul@gmail.com> - 2012-08-21 15:03 +0300
                Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-08-21 09:05 -0700
                Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-08-21 09:48 -0700
                Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-08-21 11:51 -0700
                Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-08-17 14:39 -0700
                Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-08-17 15:39 -0700
                Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-08-17 15:57 -0700
                Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-08-18 11:03 -0700
                Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-08-19 18:07 -0700
  Re: Why so many imports instead of java.io.* ? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-08-14 17:46 -0700

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