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  OT: one TeraBYTE RAM chip Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-08-06 04:20 -0700
    Re: OT: one TeraBYTE RAM chip "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@nohavenotit.com> - 2013-08-06 08:51 -0400
      Re: OT: one TeraBYTE RAM chip Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-08-06 06:22 -0700
        Re: OT: one TeraBYTE RAM chip "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@nohavenotit.com> - 2013-08-07 18:10 -0400
    Re: OT: one TeraBYTE RAM chip Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-08-06 07:42 -0700
      Re: OT: one TeraBYTE RAM chip Syd Rumpo <usenet@nononono.co.uk> - 2013-08-06 16:46 +0100

#25019 — OT: one TeraBYTE RAM chip

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/05/crossbar_uncloaks_fast_tiny_capacious_rram_part/

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#25025

On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 07:20:58 -0400, Mark Wills  
<markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> [link RRAM]

Wow, 1TB, solid-state.

That raises the possibility of the next generation of PCs, laptops,  
netbooks, tablets,
being manufactured without harddisks or solid-state disks (SSD).

I'm not sure how to calculate the exact cycle time of their memory.  It  
seems
comparable to DDR2-667...  If that's correct, then it's fast enough to be  
used
for main memory too, not just storage.  I.e., it offers the possibility of
integration of main memory and permanent storage.  If so, that's one giant
leap forward.


Rod Pemberton
-- 
"... to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that
whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it ..."
-Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence, 1776

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#25028

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:51:01 PM UTC+1, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> If that's correct, then it's fast enough to be used for main memory too, not just storage.  I.e., it offers the possibility of integration of main memory and permanent storage.  If so, that's one giant leap forward.

*Exactly* what I was thinking. Time to go long on these boys!

This is bad news for the "cloud" storage crowd, too!

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#25068

On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 09:22:22 -0400, Mark Wills  
<markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:51:01 PM UTC+1, Rod Pemberton wrote:

>> If that's correct, then it's fast enough to be used for main memory  
>> too, not just storage.  I.e., it offers the possibility of integration  
>> of main memory and permanent storage.  If so, that's one giant leap  
>> forward.
>
> *Exactly* what I was thinking. Time to go long on these boys!
>
> This is bad news for the "cloud" storage crowd, too!

The NSA and their spying is bad news for "cloud" storage.  No one
wants the US government in their business, even if it's 100% legal...
Those with power simply can't be trusted with it.  That was the point
of three branches of government in the US.  That was when the US
government was small.  Today, with a monstrously large US government,
we need like 36 branches or so to maintain impotence, er.. incompetence,
uh.. inefectiveness, ... I mean balance.


This 384GB memory article came up today.  They use 3D: 24 layers of
16GB chips.  So, maybe 1TB is not quite such an improvement...

http://news.yahoo.com/samsung-chips-could-lead-smartphones-384gb-storage-014502632.html


RP
-- 
"... to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that
whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it ..."
-Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence, 1776

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#25032

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 7:20:58 AM UTC-4, Mark Wills wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/05/crossbar_uncloaks_fast_tiny_capacious_rram_part/

Moore's law is alive and well in the SD card market.

I didn't know that NAND write retention was 1-3 years. I'll have to check out my old USB sticks to make sure they haven't died the way my 3.5" floppies did.

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#25033

On 06/08/2013 15:42, Brad Eckert wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 7:20:58 AM UTC-4, Mark Wills wrote:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/05/crossbar_uncloaks_fast_tiny_capacious_rram_part/
>
> Moore's law is alive and well in the SD card market.
>
> I didn't know that NAND write retention was 1-3 years. I'll have to check out my old USB sticks to make sure they haven't died the way my 3.5" floppies did.

Keep them in the fridge.

Cheers
-- 
Syd

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