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  how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-13 20:25 -0700
    Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? fthstartup <fthstartup@undisclosed> - 2013-08-14 22:58 +1000
    Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-08-14 09:13 -0700
      Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-08-14 13:27 -0400
        Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2013-08-14 12:08 -0700
          Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-08-14 15:09 -0400
          Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-15 21:20 -0700
          Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@nohavenotit.com> - 2013-08-16 03:03 -0400
            Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-08-16 10:46 -0400
              Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-16 16:22 -0700
                Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-08-16 19:42 -1000
            Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-16 16:21 -0700
              Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@nohavenotit.com> - 2013-08-17 03:39 -0400
                Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-20 15:56 -0700
                  Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-08-20 13:29 -1000
                    Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-21 03:19 -0700
          Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-08-25 17:23 -0700
        Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-15 21:13 -0700
    Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-16 16:24 -0700
      Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-08-16 19:45 -1000
    Re: how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-08-25 16:06 -1000

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#25173 — how long until 100$ forth pc wit web browser?

how long 

cmon forthers?

someone said it can be done in liek a mouse!!!


I am not asking that small

can have pc, p4 3ghz 2 g ram, but must do internet and firefox and possibly ssh

1% code of c of freebsd or archlinux or openbsd?

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#25190

3 months, get in early.



the_gavino_himself wrote:

> how long
> 
> cmon forthers?
> 
> someone said it can be done in liek a mouse!!!
> 
> 
> I am not asking that small
> 
> can have pc, p4 3ghz 2 g ram, but must do internet and firefox and
> possibly ssh
> 
> 1% code of c of freebsd or archlinux or openbsd?

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#25200

> cmon forthers?

Maybe 25% of the code.  You are asking for too much.   There are relatively few Forth programmers compared to C programmers.  

Honestly, I feel like addressing this at length, but I need another cup of coffee at the moment.

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#25206

On 8/14/2013 12:13 PM, Jason Damisch wrote:
>
>> cmon forthers?
>
> Maybe 25% of the code.  You are asking for too much.   There are relatively few Forth programmers compared to C programmers.
>
> Honestly, I feel like addressing this at length, but I need another cup of coffee at the moment.

While you are at it, get yourself a doughnut.  You just fed the troll, 
you should have something too.

I was really hoping people would stop responding to the drivel spigot.

-- 

Rick

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#25208

> I was really hoping people would stop responding to the drivel spigot.

I hope that Gavino understands that most people in C.L.F consider him to be a Troll, and that he is not well liked here. 

In response to this, I think that I will need to troll Gavino back.  

One cannot have something for nothing.  Yet this is what Ego demands.  Ego is the drive to have everything for nothing forever for free.  Now I am running on the assumption that Gavino has a huge Ego.

Gavino is demanding the Universe for Everything out of a paradigm which is all about rejecting the Everything.  Forth is about simplicity and elegance.  One does not get that by striving to attain universal applicability. 

It seems to me that Gavino wants everything for nothing.  Therefore, he is asking that he expend absolutely no effort or energy whatsoever.  He demands that this mind wrenchingly awesome Forth system which we are going to write for him is going to turn him into an entity which surpasses Bill Gates in wealth, fame, and grandeur.  The Universe must provide this without him doing anything on his part.  The system must be orders of magnitude of an improvement in every way possible and impossible than the current systems we are using now.   It must do 100x as much while consuming 100x less RAM and CPU clock-cycles.  It must conform exactly to what he expects a computer system should be and do.  It's interfaces must conform exactly to what he is accustomed to.  It's behavior must conform exactly to what he images the ideal computer system to be.  It must be exactly the computer that he is using now, yet somehow solve all of the problems either real or imagined which are involved with the computer he is using now as well as being completely Free of charge.  Furthermore, instead of the people who write this system for him earning anything for it, it must be Free of Charge for him and simultaneously make him a Trillionaire.  But at the same time if this jackpot winning makes him look bad in any way, then of course the people who actually write this thing are getting the whole world out of it, that depending upon quantum perception and Gavino's mood at any particular moment. 

I'm sorry Gavino, but as a Titanist, I am not in a position to make you into a God.

Jason 

<Troll Well Fed>

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#25209

On 8/14/2013 3:08 PM, Jason Damisch wrote:
> <Troll Well Fed>

Indeed...

-- 

Rick

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#25237

On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:08:18 PM UTC-7, Jason Damisch wrote:
> > I was really hoping people would stop responding to the drivel spigot.
> 
> 
> 
> I hope that Gavino understands that most people in C.L.F consider him to be a Troll, and that he is not well liked here. 
> 
> 
> 
> In response to this, I think that I will need to troll Gavino back.  
> 
> 
> 
> One cannot have something for nothing.  Yet this is what Ego demands.  Ego is the drive to have everything for nothing forever for free.  Now I am running on the assumption that Gavino has a huge Ego.
> 
> 
> 
> Gavino is demanding the Universe for Everything out of a paradigm which is all about rejecting the Everything.  Forth is about simplicity and elegance.  One does not get that by striving to attain universal applicability. 
> 
> 
> 
> It seems to me that Gavino wants everything for nothing.  Therefore, he is asking that he expend absolutely no effort or energy whatsoever.  He demands that this mind wrenchingly awesome Forth system which we are going to write for him is going to turn him into an entity which surpasses Bill Gates in wealth, fame, and grandeur.  The Universe must provide this without him doing anything on his part.  The system must be orders of magnitude of an improvement in every way possible and impossible than the current systems we are using now.   It must do 100x as much while consuming 100x less RAM and CPU clock-cycles.  It must conform exactly to what he expects a computer system should be and do.  It's interfaces must conform exactly to what he is accustomed to.  It's behavior must conform exactly to what he images the ideal computer system to be.  It must be exactly the computer that he is using now, yet somehow solve all of the problems either real or imagined which are involved with the computer he is using now as well as being completely Free of charge.  Furthermore, instead of the people who write this system for him earning anything for it, it must be Free of Charge for him and simultaneously make him a Trillionaire.  But at the same time if this jackpot winning makes him look bad in any way, then of course the people who actually write this thing are getting the whole world out of it, that depending upon quantum perception and Gavino's mood at any particular moment. 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm sorry Gavino, but as a Titanist, I am not in a position to make you into a God.
> 
> 
> 
> Jason 
> 
> 
> 
> <Troll Well Fed>

Whats a Titanist?

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#25240

On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:08:18 -0400, Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com>  
wrote:

>> I was really hoping people would stop responding
>> to the drivel spigot.
>
> I hope that Gavino understands that most people in
> C.L.F consider him to be a Troll, and that he is not
> well liked here.
>

It's really not like you two are much better...  Is it?

Seriously, why do you two think you're any LESS annoying?

Unfortunately, Gavino is actually one up on you two.  He
actually mentions Forth in his posts...


Rod Pemberton

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#25256

On 8/16/2013 3:03 AM, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:08:18 -0400, Jason Damisch
> <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> I was really hoping people would stop responding
>>> to the drivel spigot.
>>
>> I hope that Gavino understands that most people in
>> C.L.F consider him to be a Troll, and that he is not
>> well liked here.
>>
>
> It's really not like you two are much better... Is it?
>
> Seriously, why do you two think you're any LESS annoying?
>
> Unfortunately, Gavino is actually one up on you two. He
> actually mentions Forth in his posts...
>
>
> Rod Pemberton

Just like in the ocean where every fish is eaten by a larger fish, in 
this group every troll is criticized by a larger troll.... Until you 
reach the biggest troll of them all, the UBER TROLL.  As little Walt 
thought he was being warned in '... Garp', "watch out for the under toad."

Watch out for the UBER TROLL!!!

-- 

Rick

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#25271

On Friday, August 16, 2013 7:46:47 AM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
> On 8/16/2013 3:03 AM, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:08:18 -0400, Jason Damisch
> 
> > <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> >>> I was really hoping people would stop responding
> 
> >>> to the drivel spigot.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> I hope that Gavino understands that most people in
> 
> >> C.L.F consider him to be a Troll, and that he is not
> 
> >> well liked here.
> 
> >>
> 
> >
> 
> > It's really not like you two are much better... Is it?
> 
> >
> 
> > Seriously, why do you two think you're any LESS annoying?
> 
> >
> 
> > Unfortunately, Gavino is actually one up on you two. He
> 
> > actually mentions Forth in his posts...
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > Rod Pemberton
> 
> 
> 
> Just like in the ocean where every fish is eaten by a larger fish, in 
> 
> this group every troll is criticized by a larger troll.... Until you 
> 
> reach the biggest troll of them all, the UBER TROLL.  As little Walt 
> 
> thought he was being warned in '... Garp', "watch out for the under toad."
> 
> 
> 
> Watch out for the UBER TROLL!!!
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> Rick

I can call you a troll too.

All this baby name calling just distracts from the technical or application questions I pose.
Please save them for your sarcastic democrat bar conversations I find sarcasm to the the most brainless form of humor.

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#25274

On 8/16/13 1:22 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> On Friday, August 16, 2013 7:46:47 AM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
>> On 8/16/2013 3:03 AM, Rod Pemberton wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:08:18 -0400, Jason Damisch
>>
>>> <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>>> I was really hoping people would stop responding
>>
>>>>> to the drivel spigot.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I hope that Gavino understands that most people in
>>
>>>> C.L.F consider him to be a Troll, and that he is not
>>
>>>> well liked here.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> It's really not like you two are much better... Is it?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Seriously, why do you two think you're any LESS annoying?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Unfortunately, Gavino is actually one up on you two. He
>>
>>> actually mentions Forth in his posts...
>>
...
>
> I can call you a troll too.
>
> All this baby name calling just distracts from the technical or application questions I pose.
> Please save them for your sarcastic democrat bar conversations I find sarcasm to the the most brainless form of humor.
>

We all get annoyed because you show no sign of having read or considered 
any of the responses you've gotten over the years.

cheers,
Elizabeth

-- 
==================================================
Elizabeth D. Rather   (US & Canada)   800-55-FORTH
FORTH Inc.                         +1 310.999.6784
5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700
Los Angeles, CA 90045
http://www.forth.com

"Forth-based products and Services for real-time
applications since 1973."
==================================================

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#25270

On Friday, August 16, 2013 12:03:41 AM UTC-7, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:08:18 -0400, Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com>  
> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >> I was really hoping people would stop responding
> 
> >> to the drivel spigot.
> 
> >
> 
> > I hope that Gavino understands that most people in
> 
> > C.L.F consider him to be a Troll, and that he is not
> 
> > well liked here.
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> It's really not like you two are much better...  Is it?
> 
> 
> 
> Seriously, why do you two think you're any LESS annoying?
> 
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, Gavino is actually one up on you two.  He
> 
> actually mentions Forth in his posts...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Pemberton

What a sec, why am I annoying at all?
I love forth.
I am a great guy.
When I ask about end user apps I am simply trying to get why forth does not have such apps or figure out if it does already.
If not why hasn't someone use forth to make such an app?
Is forth not suited for xyz?
Just the info is interesting and it spawns more interesting topics of coversation as well.

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#25276

On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 19:21:27 -0400, the_gavino_himself  
<visphatesjava@gmail.com> wrote:

> What a sec, why am I annoying at all?

Was that question intended for rickman and Jason?
They were the ones who called you a Troll...

Or, did you *really* mean to ask *me* that?

Okay, here goes:

1) you persistently or incessantly post asking about Forth
apps, or Forth hardware, e.g., much like rickman's incessant
posts about any microprocessor he likes...

2) you have no posts asking about Forth coding issues,
which is what this group is about, e.g., much like Bernd's
random discussions on politics or history or China or his
processor or even his Forth-less Forth discussions...

3) you have no apparent ability to remember prior responses
by others to your posts, i.e., you ask the same things over
and over again which can be viewed as a form of harassment,
or disrepect, or being uncaring, instead of forgetfulness...

4) you ask a variety of questions which are perceived as
"inciteful" by others here, i.e., those that force
comparisons of Forth to other languages, those that force
Forth regulars to face reality about Forth's pitiful
capabilitiess, or those that are intended to encourage
people to respond, etc.

5) you don't seem to have an opinion on anything or
any well-formed beliefs.  This is a result of you only
asking questions instead of discussing issues in
the already existing threads of conversation, i.e.,
lack of participation.

> I love forth.

Whatever...

Almost everyone here could or would say that, except me.

> I am a great guy.

Ok...

You seem nice in the sense that you don't appear
to swear or get angry or hold a grudge.  But, those
could be signs of a mental disorder, aging, hard
partying, long work hours, lack of sleep, no
long term memory, Asperger's, or drug abuse, etc...

> When I ask about end user apps I am simply trying
> to get why forth does not have such apps or figure
> out if it does already.

The other regulars here don't like my answer on that.
I'll repeat it, yet again, anyway for it's the truth,
as I see it.  Forth sucks as a programming language.
Hence, it's unpopular.  Unpopular languages don't have
programs written for them because no one programs
for them.  That's the core of the truth.  And, it's
a self-reinforcing situation.  Unpopular languages
become less popular over time.  This doesn't just
affect Forth.  See Lisp, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC,
COBOL, etc.

But, I've already told you this about Forth more than
a few times in the past, although perhaps not so
blatantly stating that Forth simply sucks...

Ms. Rather has also politely answered quite a few of
these questions of yours, repeatedly.  Most everyone
else has given up.  They really just want you to stop
posting new questions, or slight variations of old
questions.  However, it's easier for them to insult
you than to ask you to stop posting.  They've probably
assumed you won't stop even if asked.

> If not why hasn't someone use forth to make such an app?

See above.

> Is forth not suited for xyz?

This is another one of those questions which really irks
the regulars here.  Most of the Forth regulars here believe
Forth is well suited for everything related to general
purpose programming, just like any other high-level language.
It doesn't matter to them whether that perception is true or
not.  So, they see this simple question as being intentionally
inciteful.  Why?  Because it prompts a comparison with the
capabilities of other programming languages.  That inevitably
leads to hostile, argumentative, or angry conversation,
which they don't care for.  I.e., it's been deemed "taboo"
to ask about anything which truly compares Forth's abilities
or lack thereof.  I.e., if you aren't a Forth "devotee",
then you shouldn't be here, according to their perspective.
(wrong)  But, that's why you continue to be "crucified".
Think of this as you being a member of a cult.

> Just the info is interesting and it spawns more
> interesting topics of co[n]versation as well.

That's another example of an inciteful perspective.
They're not interested in interesting topics of
conversation.  They're even less interested in someone
intentionally attempting to encourage conversation,
whether intentional, or not - which is perceived as
intentional.  They're interested in Forth programming,
except when they decide to blatantly go off-topic, which
is frequent.  All of them do and do so repeatedly, but
they'll point it out to you when you do and blame you even
if there are already thirty other people who were off-topic
first, until you're "accepted" as a regular by the other
regulars.  It's an example of group thought, group dynamics,
and group social pressure.  I suggest you resist by
embracing free thought.  It's much better for you in
the long run.

Did that answer your questions?


Rod Pemberton

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#25330

On Saturday, August 17, 2013 12:39:12 AM UTC-7, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 19:21:27 -0400, the_gavino_himself  
> 
> <visphatesjava@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > What a sec, why am I annoying at all?
> 
> 
> 
> Was that question intended for rickman and Jason?
> 
> They were the ones who called you a Troll...
> 
> 
> 
> Or, did you *really* mean to ask *me* that?
> 
> 
> 
> Okay, here goes:
> 
> 
> 
> 1) you persistently or incessantly post asking about Forth
> 
> apps, or Forth hardware, e.g., much like rickman's incessant
> 
> posts about any microprocessor he likes...
> 
> 
> 
> 2) you have no posts asking about Forth coding issues,
> 
> which is what this group is about, e.g., much like Bernd's
> 
> random discussions on politics or history or China or his
> 
> processor or even his Forth-less Forth discussions...
> 
> 
> 
> 3) you have no apparent ability to remember prior responses
> 
> by others to your posts, i.e., you ask the same things over
> 
> and over again which can be viewed as a form of harassment,
> 
> or disrepect, or being uncaring, instead of forgetfulness...
> 
> 
> 
> 4) you ask a variety of questions which are perceived as
> 
> "inciteful" by others here, i.e., those that force
> 
> comparisons of Forth to other languages, those that force
> 
> Forth regulars to face reality about Forth's pitiful
> 
> capabilitiess, or those that are intended to encourage
> 
> people to respond, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> 5) you don't seem to have an opinion on anything or
> 
> any well-formed beliefs.  This is a result of you only
> 
> asking questions instead of discussing issues in
> 
> the already existing threads of conversation, i.e.,
> 
> lack of participation.
> 
> 
> 
> > I love forth.
> 
> 
> 
> Whatever...
> 
> 
> 
> Almost everyone here could or would say that, except me.
> 
> 
> 
> > I am a great guy.
> 
> 
> 
> Ok...
> 
> 
> 
> You seem nice in the sense that you don't appear
> 
> to swear or get angry or hold a grudge.  But, those
> 
> could be signs of a mental disorder, aging, hard
> 
> partying, long work hours, lack of sleep, no
> 
> long term memory, Asperger's, or drug abuse, etc...
> 
> 
> 
> > When I ask about end user apps I am simply trying
> 
> > to get why forth does not have such apps or figure
> 
> > out if it does already.
> 
> 
> 
> The other regulars here don't like my answer on that.
> 
> I'll repeat it, yet again, anyway for it's the truth,
> 
> as I see it.  Forth sucks as a programming language.
> 
> Hence, it's unpopular.  Unpopular languages don't have
> 
> programs written for them because no one programs
> 
> for them.  That's the core of the truth.  And, it's
> 
> a self-reinforcing situation.  Unpopular languages
> 
> become less popular over time.  This doesn't just
> 
> affect Forth.  See Lisp, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC,
> 
> COBOL, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> But, I've already told you this about Forth more than
> 
> a few times in the past, although perhaps not so
> 
> blatantly stating that Forth simply sucks...
> 
> 
> 
> Ms. Rather has also politely answered quite a few of
> 
> these questions of yours, repeatedly.  Most everyone
> 
> else has given up.  They really just want you to stop
> 
> posting new questions, or slight variations of old
> 
> questions.  However, it's easier for them to insult
> 
> you than to ask you to stop posting.  They've probably
> 
> assumed you won't stop even if asked.
> 
> 
> 
> > If not why hasn't someone use forth to make such an app?
> 
> 
> 
> See above.
> 
> 
> 
> > Is forth not suited for xyz?
> 
> 
> 
> This is another one of those questions which really irks
> 
> the regulars here.  Most of the Forth regulars here believe
> 
> Forth is well suited for everything related to general
> 
> purpose programming, just like any other high-level language.
> 
> It doesn't matter to them whether that perception is true or
> 
> not.  So, they see this simple question as being intentionally
> 
> inciteful.  Why?  Because it prompts a comparison with the
> 
> capabilities of other programming languages.  That inevitably
> 
> leads to hostile, argumentative, or angry conversation,
> 
> which they don't care for.  I.e., it's been deemed "taboo"
> 
> to ask about anything which truly compares Forth's abilities
> 
> or lack thereof.  I.e., if you aren't a Forth "devotee",
> 
> then you shouldn't be here, according to their perspective.
> 
> (wrong)  But, that's why you continue to be "crucified".
> 
> Think of this as you being a member of a cult.
> 
> 
> 
> > Just the info is interesting and it spawns more
> 
> > interesting topics of co[n]versation as well.
> 
> 
> 
> That's another example of an inciteful perspective.
> 
> They're not interested in interesting topics of
> 
> conversation.  They're even less interested in someone
> 
> intentionally attempting to encourage conversation,
> 
> whether intentional, or not - which is perceived as
> 
> intentional.  They're interested in Forth programming,
> 
> except when they decide to blatantly go off-topic, which
> 
> is frequent.  All of them do and do so repeatedly, but
> 
> they'll point it out to you when you do and blame you even
> 
> if there are already thirty other people who were off-topic
> 
> first, until you're "accepted" as a regular by the other
> 
> regulars.  It's an example of group thought, group dynamics,
> 
> and group social pressure.  I suggest you resist by
> 
> embracing free thought.  It's much better for you in
> 
> the long run.
> 
> 
> 
> Did that answer your questions?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Pemberton

you didn't mentiona 100$ forth pc with a working web browser 
so no

Why do you claim I am like drunk or mental? Weird.  I am genius and make good money and have 0 debts.  

If I ask the same question it is because I have not gotten an answer.

I don't pay attention to group pressure, except abround april 15.

Miss Rather is correct in that I could have read more by now and practiced more forth programming.  I am working on this.

I am sorry if I give you headaches.  I just wish to see cool tek exploited into working apps that are nice.   Don't read more into it.

Please don't assume I have gotten an answer to a question if I ask it again.
That is a trap.
Try posting the answer.

thx

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#25331

On 8/20/2013 12:56 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote:
...
> Please don't assume I have gotten an answer to a question if I ask it again.
> That is a trap.
> Try posting the answer.

We have. In particular, I have. I get annoyed when you ignore my 
answers, and I have given up.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

-- 
==================================================
Elizabeth D. Rather   (US & Canada)   800-55-FORTH
FORTH Inc.                         +1 310.999.6784
5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700
Los Angeles, CA 90045
http://www.forth.com

"Forth-based products and Services for real-time
applications since 1973."
==================================================

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#25342

On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:29:51 PM UTC-7, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
> On 8/20/2013 12:56 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> > Please don't assume I have gotten an answer to a question if I ask it again.
> 
> > That is a trap.
> 
> > Try posting the answer.
> 
> 
> 
> We have. In particular, I have. I get annoyed when you ignore my 
> 
> answers, and I have given up.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Elizabeth
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> ==================================================
> 
> Elizabeth D. Rather   (US & Canada)   800-55-FORTH
> 
> FORTH Inc.                         +1 310.999.6784
> 
> 5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700
> 
> Los Angeles, CA 90045
> 
> http://www.forth.com
> 
> 
> 
> "Forth-based products and Services for real-time
> 
> applications since 1973."
> 
> ==================================================

sorry I have noted many of your answers and I thank you for them.

OK well I guess I just will have to not post until i have read starting and thinking forth.

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#25404

or just run firefox :)

maybe transfer data from machien to machine heh

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#25236

On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:27:06 AM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
> On 8/14/2013 12:13 PM, Jason Damisch wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> >> cmon forthers?
> 
> >
> 
> > Maybe 25% of the code.  You are asking for too much.   There are relatively few Forth programmers compared to C programmers.
> 
> >
> 
> > Honestly, I feel like addressing this at length, but I need another cup of coffee at the moment.
> 
> 
> 
> While you are at it, get yourself a doughnut.  You just fed the troll, 
> 
> you should have something too.
> 
> 
> 
> I was really hoping people would stop responding to the drivel spigot.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> Rick

at dawn
to the death!

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#25272

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:25:17 PM UTC-7, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> how long 
> 
> 
> 
> cmon forthers?
> 
> 
> 
> someone said it can be done in liek a mouse!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I am not asking that small
> 
> 
> 
> can have pc, p4 3ghz 2 g ram, but must do internet and firefox and possibly ssh
> 
> 
> 
> 1% code of c of freebsd or archlinux or openbsd?

If forth is general purpose, and can do what c does?
WHy not an openbsd in forth
Why would it not take less code, less effort etc????
Why can it not run ona amd64 cpu?
Why can it not include a port of firefox??
why?

Is it manpower?
is it invention needed?
is it lack of data structures?

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#25275

On 8/16/13 1:24 PM, the_gavino_himself wrote:

> If forth is general purpose, and can do what c does?

Forth is an "application-oriented language". That's different from 
"general-purpose". It means you can direct it into any particular area, 
but it isn't designed to be all things to all people. It has primarily 
been used for embedded systems, and is therefore best suited there.

> WHy not an openbsd in forth
> Why would it not take less code, less effort etc????
> Why can it not run ona amd64 cpu?
> Why can it not include a port of firefox??
> why?

Because those are large, extensive applications that already exist, and 
no one is interested in funding an alternative version even though it 
might be conceptually smaller etc.

>
> Is it manpower?
> is it invention needed?
> is it lack of data structures?
>

It's lack of funding.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

-- 
==================================================
Elizabeth D. Rather   (US & Canada)   800-55-FORTH
FORTH Inc.                         +1 310.999.6784
5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700
Los Angeles, CA 90045
http://www.forth.com

"Forth-based products and Services for real-time
applications since 1973."
==================================================

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