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Re: Parsing timestamps?

Date 2025-06-11 11:41 +0200
Subject Re: Parsing timestamps?
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
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From Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com>
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On 10-06-2025 19:34, LIT wrote:
>>> So now you see: one can either use variable to
>>> make the solution cleaner - or one can create new word(s).
>>> Either way - some new names are added to the vocabulary.
>>> Why the use of variable, instead of new words,
>>> should be perceived of 'inferior'? Variable is a word too.
>>
>> Unlike variables, factors (subroutines) don't contradict effective
>> stack-based programming.
> 
>  From "Thinking Forth":
> 
> "TIP: Simplify code by using the stack. But don’t stack too
> deeply within any single definition. Redesign, or, as a last resort,
> use a named variable.
> 
> Some newcomers to Forth view the stack the way a gymnast views
> a trampoline: as a fun place to bounce around on. But the stack
> is meant for data-passing, not acrobatics.
> 
> [..]
> 
> (not going to paste (almost) whole chapter, but you may want
> to read the section "Redesign" that follows the above)
> 
> I’ve been guilty many times of playing hotshot, trying to do
> as much as possible on the stack rather than define a local
> variable. There are three reasons to avoid this cockiness.
> 
> First, it’s a pain to code that way. Second, the result
> is unreadable. Third, all your work becomes useless when
> a design change becomes necessary, and the order of two
> arguments changes on the stack. The DUPs, OVERs and ROTs
> weren’t really solving the problem, just jockeying things
> into position. With this third reason in mind, I recommend
> the following:
> 
> TIP: Especially in the design phase, keep on the stack only
> the arguments you’re using immediately. Create local
> variables for any others. (If necessary, eliminate the variables
> during the optimization phase.)
> 
> Fourth, if the definition is extremely time-critical, those
> tricky stack manipulators, (e.g., ROT ROT) can really eat up
> clock cycles. Direct access to variables is faster."

You're mixing quotes with your own statements - and frankly, I'm not 
gonna clean that mess up.

First of all, Brodie tries to cover as wide a field as possible - and as 
usual, there is an exception to every (heuristic) rule. So - yeah, I 
used the occasional variable as well. Like when keeping track of the 
position on a screen. I'm not going to drag that s*cker all over the 
data flow, just because Brodie said so.

It also doesn't work very well for arrays in general. You may pass an 
address to an array to a word, but you're not setting those up in the 
beginning to surf on the data flow throughout the program.

But you know very well that's not what I'm addressing..

You know you're fighting a losing battle when you go into a chapter 
called "The stylish stack" and seek for cherries to pick. That's not 
gonna work.

And although there is a very funny cartoon in that chapter, all you need 
to know is: "I have a friend who has the sign “Help stamp out variables” 
above his desk."

So if you want to find some straw to hold on to, you're not gonna find 
it here:

"TIP: Unless it involves cluttering up the stack to the point of 
unreadability, try to pass arguments via the stack rather than pulling 
them out of variables."

There is much for you to learn here. If your stack clutters up, it 
doesn't automatically mean it can't be done. It just means *you* can't 
do it. I've been humbled by these grumpy old men here numerous times - 
and I thank them for that, because it made me a better programmer.

 > Yes, Brodie warns us next "but careful with variables' use
 > too" - and I still think my use of variables in two examples
 > I recently pasted wasn't "legit" in any way. It was just
 > applying the tips you see above.

It wasn't legit, because I proved it could be done *without global 
variables.* And note every variable access takes two or three words. 
It's *not* automatically faster. If you think a programming language 
always behaves the same - in all situations, on all platforms, in every 
iteration - it's time for you to read "Advanced C" by the Andersons. 
Gee, you got a long way ahead of you!

Hans Bezemer

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                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-16 15:39 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? peter <peter.noreply@tin.it> - 2025-07-17 10:14 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-17 12:54 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? peter <peter.noreply@tin.it> - 2025-07-17 22:48 +0200
                Vector sum (was: Parsing timestamps?) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-19 10:18 +0000
                Re: Vector sum minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2025-07-19 13:53 +0200
                Re: Vector sum anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-19 14:51 +0000
                Re: Vector sum minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2025-07-20 06:27 +0200
                Re: Vector sum (was: Parsing timestamps?) peter <peter.noreply@tin.it> - 2025-07-19 15:24 +0200
                Re: Vector sum (was: Parsing timestamps?) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-19 14:39 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2025-07-16 18:15 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-16 16:23 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2025-07-16 19:17 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-17 13:56 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2025-07-17 18:02 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-16 16:02 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2025-07-16 21:12 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-17 12:41 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2025-07-18 05:25 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-14 01:24 -0700
                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-14 10:11 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-07-18 17:44 +1000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-18 15:34 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-07-20 13:16 +1000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-21 13:28 -0700
                Re: Parsing timestamps? dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-07-22 11:52 +1000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-11 08:33 +0000
                Re: Floats minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2025-07-12 06:53 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2025-07-11 09:09 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-11 07:02 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-11 01:15 -0700
                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-11 10:14 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-06-30 02:44 -0700
                Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-30 09:52 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2025-06-30 10:25 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-30 10:43 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-07-01 18:53 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2025-06-30 13:07 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-06-29 15:26 -0700
                Re: Parsing timestamps? dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-06-30 13:37 +1000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-06-29 23:18 -0700
                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-06-29 20:25 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? sean@conman.org - 2025-06-30 01:43 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-07-01 19:34 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-06-24 16:37 +0000
                Nested definitions (was: Parsing timestamps?) Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2025-07-02 12:53 +0400
                Re: Nested definitions minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2025-07-02 11:02 +0200
                Re: Nested definitions Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2025-07-02 13:50 +0400
                Re: Nested definitions minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2025-07-02 18:15 +0200
                Re: Nested definitions (was: Parsing timestamps?) albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2025-07-02 13:37 +0200
                Re: Nested definitions Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2025-07-02 16:18 +0400
                Re: Nested definitions anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-02 15:12 +0000
                Re: Nested definitions minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2025-07-02 18:34 +0200
                Re: Nested definitions Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2025-07-02 20:58 +0400
                Re: Nested definitions anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-03 08:34 +0000
                Re: Nested definitions albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2025-07-03 15:11 +0200
                Re: Nested definitions Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2025-07-03 20:47 +0400
                Re: Nested definitions peter <peter.noreply@tin.it> - 2025-07-03 19:42 +0200
                Re: Nested definitions minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2025-07-03 18:46 +0000
                Re: Nested definitions Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2025-07-03 23:47 +0400
                Re: Nested definitions Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2025-07-04 00:11 +0400
                Re: Nested definitions albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2025-07-03 20:57 +0200
                Re: Nested definitions Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-07-07 14:31 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2025-06-23 05:40 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2025-06-23 10:02 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2025-06-23 13:34 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2025-06-23 15:09 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-23 05:05 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-23 13:52 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-23 12:49 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-23 15:50 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-23 18:48 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-24 11:12 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-06-24 10:29 +0100
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-24 14:00 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2025-06-10 12:48 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-10 11:08 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 14:44 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-10 12:56 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 16:28 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 14:29 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-10 12:48 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 16:48 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-10 20:56 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-11 11:18 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2025-06-11 11:39 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 16:56 +0200
  Re: Parsing timestamps? "B. Pym" <Nobody447095@here-nor-there.org> - 2025-06-09 12:34 +0000
  Re: Parsing timestamps? "B. Pym" <Nobody447095@here-nor-there.org> - 2025-06-10 09:18 +0000
    Re: Parsing timestamps? dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 20:32 +1000
      Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-10 10:43 +0000
        Re: Parsing timestamps? dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-06-11 00:58 +1000
          Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-10 15:39 +0000
            Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 18:02 +0200
          Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-10 17:34 +0000
            Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-10 17:39 +0000
            Re: Parsing timestamps? dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-06-11 11:49 +1000
              Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-11 09:04 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-06-11 20:49 +1000
              Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-11 11:50 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-11 09:58 +0000
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-11 13:25 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2025-06-11 12:18 +0200
                Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-11 13:23 +0200
            Re: Parsing timestamps? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2025-06-11 11:41 +0200
    Re: Parsing timestamps? "B. Pym" <Nobody447095@here-nor-there.org> - 2025-06-11 09:25 +0000
      Re: Parsing timestamps? dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-06-11 21:51 +1000
  Re: Parsing timestamps? "B. Pym" <Nobody447095@here-nor-there.org> - 2025-07-29 15:07 +0000
    Re: Parsing timestamps? "B. Pym" <Nobody447095@here-nor-there.org> - 2025-07-29 15:22 +0000
    Re: Parsing timestamps? dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-07-30 03:35 +1000

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