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Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth, comp.lang.c
Subject Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News
Date 2016-03-14 16:23 -0700
Organization None to speak of
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> writes:
> Am Sun, 13 Mar 2016 20:29:28 -0700 schrieb Keith Thompson:
>>> But apparently not familiar with human expressions.
>> [snip]
>> 
>> You are entitled to your opinion.  You are also entitled to insult me if
>> you wish.  You are not, however, entitled to insult me and then expect
>> me to continue the discussion.
>
> What I wanted to say is that an overspecific definition of "portable 
> assembler" is misleading.  Human languages are weak and ambiguous, and 
> using such an overspecific definition is erecting a straw man.  That is a 
> very common way to argument, and the counter-measure is to point this out.
>
> That's not an insult, but an attempt to improve mutual understanding of 
> that (not very well-defined) term "portable assembler".

I'll accept that it wasn't intended as an insult.  You could have made
your point without telling me that I'm "not familiar with human
expressions".

You seem to be saying that the word "assembler" has no specific meaning,
therefore it's acceptable to refer to C as an "assembler".

In my opinion, the phrase "portable assembler" is based on a
misunderstanding of what C and assembly languages are.

To some extent, C was designed to replace assembly language.  That
doesn't mean that it is one -- any more than an automobile is a kind of
horse.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-03 16:24 -0800
  Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 21:06 -0800
    Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 07:18 +0200
    Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-03 21:33 -0800
      Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-04 17:52 +0000
    Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-04 12:32 +0000
      Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-04 18:20 +0000
        Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-05 02:23 +0000
          Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 19:06 -0800
            Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-03-05 20:32 -0500
          Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-06 11:28 +0000
            Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-06 18:02 +0000
              Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-06 23:55 +0000
            Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-06 14:48 -0800
              Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 03:36 -0800
            Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-03-07 19:19 -0500
              Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-12 17:40 +0000
        Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-05 03:35 -0600
          Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-05 13:37 +0000
            Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-05 15:42 -0600
              Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-06 00:50 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-03-05 20:33 -0500
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-06 02:01 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-06 11:57 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-07 07:35 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-07 12:40 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-03-07 19:20 -0500
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-08 00:49 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-06 02:20 -0600
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-07 00:35 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-07 02:53 -0600
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-07 16:07 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-08 05:17 -0600
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-08 22:01 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-09 03:14 -0600
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-09 11:17 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-09 23:58 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-10 04:45 -0600
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-10 11:39 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-10 13:29 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-12 16:02 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-10 08:22 -0600
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-12 15:49 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-12 13:35 -0600
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-10 21:58 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-11 06:11 -0600
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-12 00:05 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-12 04:23 -0600
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-12 12:05 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-12 08:36 -0600
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-12 16:57 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-12 13:44 -0600
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-12 14:29 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-03-11 15:02 -1000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-12 16:20 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-12 13:53 -0600
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-06 13:02 +0000
          Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-06 11:52 +0000
            Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-06 12:42 -0600
              Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-06 13:12 -0600
  Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 07:20 +0200
  Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-04 17:37 +0000
  Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 11:23 -0800
    Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-03-09 03:24 -0600
  Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-03-04 21:01 -0500
    Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-05 13:51 +0000
      Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-03-05 19:43 -0500
        Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-06 01:45 +0000
          Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-03-07 19:19 -0500
            Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-12 17:24 +0000
              Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-13 12:27 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-03-13 13:50 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-13 19:52 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-03-13 16:08 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-13 13:40 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-14 00:41 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-13 18:23 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-14 02:59 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-13 20:29 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-14 22:44 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-14 16:23 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2016-03-14 23:55 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-14 17:19 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-14 19:26 -0500
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-15 00:48 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-14 22:30 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-15 07:23 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-15 10:09 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-15 08:56 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-15 19:33 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-17 09:46 +0100
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-03-17 09:37 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-17 18:40 +0100
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-03-17 13:53 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News invalid <address@is.invalid> - 2016-03-17 18:00 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-17 18:37 +0100
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-18 14:36 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-03-14 09:17 +0100
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-14 22:56 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-14 20:00 -0500
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-03-15 11:22 +0100
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-03-14 22:38 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Randy Howard <rhoward.mx@EverybodyUsesIt.com> - 2016-03-14 01:40 -0500
    Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-06 11:00 +0000
      Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-03-07 19:19 -0500
        Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-08 01:02 +0000
  Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 07:29 -0700
    Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-18 17:45 +0000

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