Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > comp.lang.forth > #17654
| From | "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: "comus" words |
| Date | 2012-11-29 12:53 +1100 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <k96f6m$hi2$1@speranza.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <DtudnT2L-MpEmjLNnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@supernews.com><k8p736$hji$1@speranza.aioe.org> <_9udnZB0GOraoC3NnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@supernews.com><k8sht3$nig$1@speranza.aioe.org> <2fb1677a-8956-4382-9880-6415a85db5de@dg10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <k915uc$vtt$1@speranza.aioe.org> <f492sekvdfbk.17wouvuhdtvqs$.dlg@40tude.net> |
Coos Haak wrote:
> Op Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:44:19 +1100 schreef Ed:
>
> > "parsing" characters does not necessarily mean returning them e.g. '('
> > Placing '(' at the end of a parse area will result in the parsing of zero
> > characters - including implementations which use WORD.
> >
> What if someone places s" at the end of the input line.
> I would be very surprised if the stack did not contain an address (or in
> this special case perhaps zero) and a zero on top of it.
> I would not trust a Forth that would not return the zero or even return
> nothing, as I think you imply.
Perhaps that's why the definitions of .( ." S" do not specify:
"The number of characters in ccc may be zero to the number of
characters in the parse area."
Only ( has it.
It's not Forth implementations that are at issue here but what folks are
attempting to elicit from the Standard. We know that classically ." " ( )
did not work and were not expected to. I'm unaware of anyone even
presenting a case as to why Forth needs these and S" " to work.
If I were to believe 200x then floats on the data stack would be banned
despite decades of use. The ability to parse empty strings and statements
like S" world!".( Hello )TYPE however would be mandatory.
Not long ago Elizabeth said Forth was for "intelligent programmers".
They certainly need to be to sort out the nonsense that the Standards
are imposing on them.
Back to comp.lang.forth | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread
"comus" words "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-18 20:55 -0500
Re: "comus" words "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-18 16:28 -1000
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-19 20:14 +1100
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-19 07:20 -0800
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-20 16:30 +1100
Re: "comus" words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-20 10:22 +0000
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-22 01:59 +1100
Re: "comus" words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-21 09:34 -0600
Re: "comus" words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-21 15:34 +0000
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-23 13:56 +1100
Re: "comus" words "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-22 19:21 -1000
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-24 12:14 +1100
Re: "comus" words "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-23 17:21 -1000
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-25 18:37 +1100
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-25 02:38 -0800
Re: "comus" words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-25 05:11 -0600
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-25 03:33 -0800
Re: "comus" words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-25 05:45 -0600
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-25 10:47 -0800
Re: "comus" words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-25 16:05 -0600
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-26 04:06 -0800
Re: "comus" words albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-11-26 15:12 +0000
Re: "comus" words "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-26 04:56 -0500
Re: "comus" words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-26 05:16 -0600
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-26 03:51 -0800
Re: "comus" words "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-27 07:29 -0500
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-27 11:05 -0800
Re: "comus" words "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-28 07:09 -0500
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-28 10:13 -0800
Re: "comus" words "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-29 06:09 -0500
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-29 03:22 -0800
Re: "comus" words Peter Knaggs <pjk@bcs.org.uk> - 2012-11-29 21:32 +0000
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-27 12:44 +1100
Re: "comus" words Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-11-27 17:59 +0100
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-29 12:53 +1100
Re: "comus" words Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-11-29 10:59 +0100
Re: "comus" words Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-11-29 02:22 -0800
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-29 02:58 -0800
Re: "comus" words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-29 05:53 -0600
Re: "comus" words "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-29 09:38 -1000
Re: "comus" words Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2012-11-29 13:10 +0000
Re: "comus" words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-29 13:52 +0000
Re: "comus" words Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-11-29 06:09 -0800
Re: "comus" words Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2012-11-29 15:43 +0000
Re: "comus" words Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-11-29 21:01 +0100
Re: "comus" words Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-11-29 23:17 +0100
Re: "comus" words "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-29 17:01 -1000
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-30 08:30 +1100
Re: "comus" words Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-11-29 23:06 +0100
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-30 16:23 +1100
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-29 03:14 -0800
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-30 08:31 +1100
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-29 14:41 -0800
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-30 16:19 +1100
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-30 02:31 -0800
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-12-04 03:53 +1100
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-12-03 10:45 -0800
Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-12-06 18:31 +1100
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-12-06 01:37 -0800
Re: "comus" words albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-12-06 13:31 +0000
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-12-06 07:07 -0800
Re: "comus" words "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-29 17:04 -1000
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-30 02:29 -0800
Re: "comus" words Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-11-19 05:33 -0800
Re: "comus" words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-19 14:45 +0000
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-19 07:43 -0800
Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-19 07:45 -0800
Re: "comus" words oh2aun@gmail.com - 2012-11-22 21:10 -0800
csiph-web