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Re: "comus" words

Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Date 2012-11-19 07:20 -0800
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Subject Re: "comus" words
From Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com>

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On Nov 19, 9:15 am, "Ed" <inva...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Rod Pemberton wrote:
> > ...
> > Also, is there any valid reason that an ANS Forth word like S" be
> > implemented in terms of of words like PLACE and STRING, instead
> > of ANS only words (as I did)?
>
> You forgot WORD.
>
> WORD is CORE and has traditionally been used to implement S"
> type words.  This results in compromise in portable programs such
> as using WORD and S" concurrently; not permitting entry of null
> strings etc.

Then the implementation is broken, not the standard.

>
> Standards are not about what you can do - rather what you shall
> allow others to do :)

A good standard says nothing about implementation, but it is my
experience that poor implementors blame standards to justify their
failure to understand or inability to implement as specified. They
rarely, if ever, assist in making standards less ambiguous or better
specified, since coining aphorisms is a cheaper and less
intellectually challenging task.

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"comus" words "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-18 20:55 -0500
  Re: "comus" words "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-18 16:28 -1000
  Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-19 20:14 +1100
    Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-19 07:20 -0800
      Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-20 16:30 +1100
        Re: "comus" words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-20 10:22 +0000
          Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-22 01:59 +1100
            Re: "comus" words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-21 09:34 -0600
            Re: "comus" words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-21 15:34 +0000
              Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-23 13:56 +1100
                Re: "comus" words "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-22 19:21 -1000
                Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-24 12:14 +1100
                Re: "comus" words "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-23 17:21 -1000
                Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-25 18:37 +1100
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-25 02:38 -0800
                Re: "comus" words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-25 05:11 -0600
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-25 03:33 -0800
                Re: "comus" words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-25 05:45 -0600
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-25 10:47 -0800
                Re: "comus" words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-25 16:05 -0600
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-26 04:06 -0800
                Re: "comus" words albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-11-26 15:12 +0000
                Re: "comus" words "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-26 04:56 -0500
                Re: "comus" words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-26 05:16 -0600
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-26 03:51 -0800
                Re: "comus" words "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-27 07:29 -0500
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-27 11:05 -0800
                Re: "comus" words "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-28 07:09 -0500
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-28 10:13 -0800
                Re: "comus" words "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-29 06:09 -0500
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-29 03:22 -0800
                Re: "comus" words Peter Knaggs <pjk@bcs.org.uk> - 2012-11-29 21:32 +0000
                Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-27 12:44 +1100
                Re: "comus" words Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-11-27 17:59 +0100
                Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-29 12:53 +1100
                Re: "comus" words Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-11-29 10:59 +0100
                Re: "comus" words Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-11-29 02:22 -0800
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-29 02:58 -0800
                Re: "comus" words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-29 05:53 -0600
                Re: "comus" words "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-29 09:38 -1000
                Re: "comus" words Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2012-11-29 13:10 +0000
                Re: "comus" words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-29 13:52 +0000
                Re: "comus" words Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-11-29 06:09 -0800
                Re: "comus" words Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2012-11-29 15:43 +0000
                Re: "comus" words Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-11-29 21:01 +0100
                Re: "comus" words Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-11-29 23:17 +0100
                Re: "comus" words "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-29 17:01 -1000
                Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-30 08:30 +1100
                Re: "comus" words Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-11-29 23:06 +0100
                Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-30 16:23 +1100
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-29 03:14 -0800
                Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-30 08:31 +1100
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-29 14:41 -0800
                Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-11-30 16:19 +1100
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-30 02:31 -0800
                Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-12-04 03:53 +1100
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-12-03 10:45 -0800
                Re: "comus" words "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-12-06 18:31 +1100
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-12-06 01:37 -0800
                Re: "comus" words albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-12-06 13:31 +0000
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-12-06 07:07 -0800
                Re: "comus" words "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-29 17:04 -1000
                Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-30 02:29 -0800
  Re: "comus" words Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-11-19 05:33 -0800
  Re: "comus" words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-19 14:45 +0000
  Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-19 07:43 -0800
    Re: "comus" words Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-19 07:45 -0800
  Re: "comus" words oh2aun@gmail.com - 2012-11-22 21:10 -0800

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