Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects

From	vandys@vsta.org
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects
Date	2012-04-17 17:43 +0000
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Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
> But the issue here is if and how we can make good use of the
> possibility to define a NOT-UNDERSTOOD method to let the class
> understand method selectors that were not directly defined for it.

The Smalltalk folks have thoroughly explored this concept, and it has proven
sound.  (ForthOS's OO extensions also used it without negative impact.)  In
ForthOS the not-understood selector (not using that name, but same idea) was
passed the selector not understood (a symbol, basically a unique token
corresponding to a string) and an array of the arguments to that selector.
Because of the argument marshaling, in ForthOS it wouldn't be suitable to
be used in high performance method invocations/redirections.  But of course
it side steps the calling convention issues, since the invocation is fully
parameterised to not-understood.

-- 
Andy Valencia
Home page: http://www.vsta.org/andy/
To contact me: http://www.vsta.org/contact/andy.html

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Message-not-understood and stack effects anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-04-17 13:16 +0000
  Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-04-17 18:20 +0200
    Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-04-17 16:37 +0000
      Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects vandys@vsta.org - 2012-04-17 17:43 +0000
      Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-04-17 10:40 -0700
  Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-04-17 12:41 -0500
    Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-04-18 09:48 +0000
      Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-04-18 05:59 -0500
        Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-04-18 08:52 -0700
        Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-04-19 11:47 +0000
          Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-04-19 07:50 -0500
            Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-04-19 07:14 -0700
              Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-04-19 09:31 -0500
            Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-04-19 19:31 +0200
            Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-04-20 10:17 +0000
              Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-04-20 07:52 -0700
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-04-20 15:26 +0000
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-04-24 06:09 -0700
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-04-24 16:52 +0000
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-04-28 18:38 -0700
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm> - 2012-04-29 00:19 -0400
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-04-29 11:16 -0700
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm> - 2012-04-29 21:55 -0400
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-05-01 14:44 -0700
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnot.cmm> - 2012-05-02 05:35 -0400
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-05-02 06:29 -0500
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-05-02 12:23 +0000
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-05-02 08:43 -0500
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2012-05-02 11:06 -0400
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-05-03 18:41 +0200
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 13:07 -0400
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-05-04 02:46 +0200
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 22:09 -0400
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-05-03 09:14 +0000
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-05-03 04:33 -0500
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-02 12:58 -0700
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects vandys@vsta.org - 2012-05-02 20:43 +0000
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-02 13:48 -0700
                Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 10:42 -0700
                TypoForth (was: Message-not-understood and stack effects) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-04-30 13:47 +0000
                Re: TypoForth (was: Message-not-understood and stack effects) BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2012-04-30 08:38 -0700
                Re: TypoForth (was: Message-not-understood and stack effects) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-04-30 16:23 +0000
                Re: TypoForth (was: Message-not-understood and stack effects) BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2012-04-30 09:41 -0700
                Re: TypoForth (was: Message-not-understood and stack effects) John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-05-01 14:53 -0700
  Re: Message-not-understood and stack effects anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-04-21 12:34 +0000

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