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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: Portability |
| Date | 2013-04-10 15:03 +0000 |
| Organization | Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien |
| Message-ID | <2013Apr10.170324@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <51636f44$0$596$e4fe514c@dreader34.news.xs4all.nl> <2013Apr9.092129@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <ZoKdnReYWZBNU_7MnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@supernews.com> <2013Apr9.144119@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <0O6dneB1Wq85xfnMnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
"Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> writes:
>On 4/9/13 2:41 AM, Anton Ertl wrote:
>> "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> writes:
>>>>>>> Back in the day, FORTH, Inc. ITC
>>>>>>> Forths were as much as 10x faster than FigForths on the same processor.
>>>>
>>>> The second coming of Jeff Fox? Please name the processor and the
>>>> benchmark. I remember you claiming that fig-Forth's NEXT contained
>>>> subroutine calls, which is false.
>>>
>>> It was an 80's PC. Someone wrote an article in Byte claiming a "faster
>>> NEXT" for the PC. It cut the "standard" FigForth NEXT from 12
>>> instructions to about 8. FORTH, Inc's was 2. So we ran some more
>>> benchmarks at that time.
>>
>> Here are the number of instructions in fig-Forth's NEXT for a number of
>> CPUs:
>>
>> 12 6502
>> 8 6800
>> 11 8085
>> 11 Z80
>> 2 6809
>> 5 8086
>> 2 PDP-11
>>
>> So presumably you had a 2-instruction ITC NEXT on the 6502. I don't
>> think that's possible, but if it is, I would be highly interested to see
>> that.
>
>When did I say anything about 6502's?
Well, the 6502 is the only CPU I know of where fig-Forth has a
12-instruction NEXT.
> My statement above was related to the IBM PC c. mid-80's.
Ok, IBM PC means 8086 fig-Forth, and as you can see above, its NEXT
has 5 instructions, not 12. If your performance comparisons are as
accurate as your instruction counts, they are worthless.
- anton
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