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Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation]

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation]
Date 2012-01-02 13:47 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
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Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> writes:
>Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>> Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> writes:
>>>Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>>>> Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> writes:
>>>>> and of whether the closure holds references to the locals in
>>>>>enclosing scope or copies of their values, i.e. what the action of TO
>>>>>on a captured local should be.
>>>> 
>>>> Why should it hold copies (apart from implementation considerations)?
>>>
>>>I think it makes more sense.  It doesn't make any sense to have
>>>multiple "locals" that refer to a single value.
>> 
>> I did not suggest that several locals refer to the same value.
>
>Surely you did.  In something like
>
>: z { x }   [: ( - n)   x 1+ to x  x ;] ;
>
>defer action
>z is action

There's just one local here.

>action is not re-entrant.

Yes, you can write non-re-entrant code with ordinary closures.  You
can also write re-entrant code; e.g., what you may have in mind could
be written as:

: z { x } [: ( - n ) x { y } y 1+ to y  y ;] ;

or, simpler, just as

: z { x } [: ( - n) x 1+ ;] ;

Why do you think that specifying your variant to be equivalent to the
latter variant "makes more sense"?  The ordinary meaning of the
original example creates a counter; you would take that possibility
away.

>> You seem to prefer introducing additional copies of these instances.
>> Where would you create them and why?
>
>In the closure, to guarantee the properties of locals.  The question
>is whther a copy of the value or a reference to a local is created.

It's still not clear to me which operation creates the copy.  Do you
mean that you create a copy on executing a closure (when you enter the
closure)q?

>>>If you really need a shared value, it's easy to make it a pointer to
>>>memory.
>> 
>> If you need another instance, it's easy to execute the locals
>> definition again.
>
>I don't think it is, as above.

In the example above it's easy to do what you seem to want to do even
in the presence of ordinary closures.  It's also simple to create
another instance:

defer action2
z is action2
defer action3
z is action3

gives you another two instances.

>> Sure, if you program a race condition, you get a race condition; you
>> can easily produce a race condition with your shared memory solution,
>> too.
>
>The question is, though, which default behaviour is the more useful.
>One can program badly in either.  :-)

One can create stateful objects, e.g., counters, with ordinary
closures, but apparently not with your model.  Conversely, one can do
everything you can do with your copying model with ordinary closures
by inserting explicit copies in the appropriate places.  So it seems
to me that the ordinary behaviour is more useful (ok, some people
dispute the usefulness of stateful objects, but they would not use TO
anyway, so for them there is no difference between the behaviours).

>Simply forbidding TO would do the job quite nicely.

Sure, if we do that, there is no difference between the two models.

It's probably a good idea to follow the discipline of not using TO in
most of the code.  However, given that you can do some interesting
things with ordinary closures and TO, I certainly argue that this
model is more useful (even if this feature would only be used in
defining some libraries).

- anton
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                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 07:45 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-15 15:48 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 08:08 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-15 10:44 -0600
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                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-15 17:16 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 09:44 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-15 17:55 +0000
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                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-15 11:25 -0600
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                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-15 12:11 -0600
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                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-16 07:54 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-16 16:58 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-17 09:58 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-19 14:36 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-19 12:49 -0800
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                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-20 06:34 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 10:22 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-15 12:44 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-16 17:27 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 09:33 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-15 12:52 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 11:07 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-16 03:16 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-16 08:10 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-16 12:38 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-16 08:13 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-16 12:43 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Sieur de Bienville <morrimichael@gmail.com> - 2011-12-17 15:35 -0800
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                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Sieur de Bienville <morrimichael@gmail.com> - 2011-12-19 13:41 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-27 07:30 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-27 16:21 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-27 20:55 +0100
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-27 14:42 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-27 22:58 +0100
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                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-30 12:00 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-30 06:09 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-30 13:23 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-30 08:13 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2011-12-30 16:48 +0200
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-30 16:36 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-30 15:16 -0800
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                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-01-01 12:22 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-01 06:09 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2012-01-01 14:17 +0200
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-01 09:50 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-01-01 18:15 +0100
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-01 11:48 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-01-02 11:19 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2012-01-01 14:02 +0200
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-01 09:37 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-02 14:30 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-01-03 13:28 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2012-01-01 13:35 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-02 14:14 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-01-03 12:04 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-31 14:19 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-31 11:46 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-02 13:47 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-02 10:19 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-03 09:08 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-03 04:47 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-03 16:55 +0000
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                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-04 12:11 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2012-01-04 12:59 -0800
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                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-26 13:01 -0600
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                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-15 20:11 +0100
                Quotations (was: return address manipulation) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-14 15:27 +0000
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                Re: Quotations Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-12-14 23:03 +0000
                Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-15 15:56 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-12-09 14:48 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-09 16:35 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-09 10:18 -0800
                Re: return address manipulation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-09 12:36 -0600
                Re: return address manipulation BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-09 12:07 -0800
                Re: return address manipulation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-10 12:37 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-10 11:49 -0600
                Re: return address manipulation BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-10 10:06 -0800
                Re: return address manipulation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-10 12:37 -0600
                Re: return address manipulation BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-10 11:28 -0800
                Re: return address manipulation "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-12-09 08:39 -1000
                Re: return address manipulation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-10 12:34 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-10 06:39 -0800
                Re: return address manipulation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-11 11:30 +0000
          Re: Memoizing recursive words stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-12-06 17:18 +0000
            Re: Memoizing recursive words Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-07 14:30 +0000
              Re: Memoizing recursive words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-07 15:33 +0000
                Re: Memoizing recursive words Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-07 17:09 +0000
                Re: Memoizing recursive words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-07 17:26 +0000
      Re: Memoizing recursive words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-07 12:08 -0600
        Re: Memoizing recursive words Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-08 00:05 +0000
          Re: Memoizing recursive words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-08 03:37 -0600

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