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Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation]

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Subject Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation]
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
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Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Date 2011-12-31 14:19 +0000
Message-ID <2011Dec31.151928@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)

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Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> writes:
>Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>> Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> writes:
>>> and of whether the closure holds references to the locals in
>>>enclosing scope or copies of their values, i.e. what the action of TO
>>>on a captured local should be.
>> 
>> Why should it hold copies (apart from implementation considerations)?
>
>I think it makes more sense.  It doesn't make any sense to have
>multiple "locals" that refer to a single value.

I did not suggest that several locals refer to the same value.

My model is that the execution of a local definition creates an
instance of the local, and no other operation creates user-visible
copies of that instance.  Access to that instance is subject to the
usual scoping rules that (I believe) we both agree on.

You seem to prefer introducing additional copies of these instances.
Where would you create them and why?

>In the definition of
>locals, we have the specification "re-entrant and recursive".  This
>property only holds if locals do not escape the word in which they're
>defined.

Why do you think so?  Can you give an example?

>If you really need a shared value, it's easy to make it a pointer to
>memory.

If you need another instance, it's easy to execute the locals
definition again.

>(As an aside: We've been through this in Javaland during the
>discussion of how lambdas should work, and come to the same
>conclusion.  Admittedly the problem is particularly acute because Java
>has threads, and you'd have the problem of a race condition if two
>threads tried to access the same captured local.  If we had support
>for threads in standard Forth we'd have the same problem.)

Sure, if you program a race condition, you get a race condition; you
can easily produce a race condition with your shared memory solution,
too.

Since I am not a believer in shared writable memory for inter-thread
communication (at least for high-level programs), I would write my
program such that it uses locals in a read-only way, or that it
creates at least one instance of a written-to local in each thread.

Using the same instance of a local in multiple threads that write to
the local is probably a mistake that the programmer should be made
aware of; I doubt that defining the language to introduce additional
copies is very helpful.

- anton
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        Re: Memoizing recursive words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-06 04:54 -0600
          Re: Memoizing recursive words Hans Bezemer <thebeez@xs4all.nl> - 2011-12-08 00:08 +0100
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                Re: Memoizing recursive words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-08 16:15 +0000
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                Re: Memoizing recursive words stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-12-10 17:34 +0000
                Re: Memoizing recursive words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-10 11:43 -0600
                return address manipulation (was: Memoizing recursive words) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-07 13:29 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-07 11:55 -0600
                Re: return address manipulation Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-08 00:03 +0100
                Re: return address manipulation BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-07 15:11 -0800
                Re: return address manipulation Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-08 01:52 +0100
                Re: return address manipulation Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-12-08 11:12 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-08 18:04 +0100
                Re: return address manipulation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-08 15:51 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-08 12:17 -0600
                Re: return address manipulation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-13 13:07 -0600
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                Re: return address manipulation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-14 04:09 -0600
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                Re: return address manipulation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-14 09:18 -0600
                Re: return address manipulation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-14 09:48 -0600
                Re: return address manipulation Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-14 23:24 +0100
                Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-15 04:50 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 07:45 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-15 15:48 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 08:08 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-15 10:44 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 09:07 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-15 17:16 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 09:44 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-15 17:55 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 10:13 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-16 17:24 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-15 11:25 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 09:40 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-15 12:11 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 19:01 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-16 03:14 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-16 07:54 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-16 16:58 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-17 09:58 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-19 14:36 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-19 12:49 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-20 02:55 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-20 06:34 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 10:22 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-15 12:44 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-16 17:27 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 09:33 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-15 12:52 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-15 11:07 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-16 03:16 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-16 08:10 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-16 12:38 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-16 08:13 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-16 12:43 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Sieur de Bienville <morrimichael@gmail.com> - 2011-12-17 15:35 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl> - 2011-12-19 20:40 +0100
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Sieur de Bienville <morrimichael@gmail.com> - 2011-12-19 13:41 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-27 07:30 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-27 16:21 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-27 20:55 +0100
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-27 14:42 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-27 22:58 +0100
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-27 16:43 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-30 12:00 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-30 06:09 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-30 13:23 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-30 08:13 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2011-12-30 16:48 +0200
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-30 16:36 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-30 15:16 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-31 14:00 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-01-01 12:22 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-01 06:09 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2012-01-01 14:17 +0200
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-01 09:50 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-01-01 18:15 +0100
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-01 11:48 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-01-02 11:19 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2012-01-01 14:02 +0200
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-01 09:37 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-02 14:30 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-01-03 13:28 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2012-01-01 13:35 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-02 14:14 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-01-03 12:04 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-31 14:19 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-31 11:46 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-02 13:47 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-02 10:19 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-03 09:08 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-03 04:47 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-03 16:55 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-03 11:28 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-04 14:52 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-04 09:54 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-04 17:28 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-04 12:10 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2012-01-03 10:09 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-04 17:14 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-04 11:26 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-04 17:49 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-04 12:11 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2012-01-04 12:59 -0800
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-05 16:46 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-03 16:34 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-03 11:40 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-04 15:03 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-01-04 12:01 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2012-01-04 21:02 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-01-05 16:38 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2012-01-07 14:27 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-30 11:33 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-30 11:53 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-16 17:18 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-16 13:16 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-19 15:01 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-15 10:40 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-22 16:21 +0000
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-22 11:40 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-26 13:01 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-27 03:54 -0600
                Re: Quotations [Was: return address manipulation] Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-15 20:11 +0100
                Quotations (was: return address manipulation) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-14 15:27 +0000
                Re: Quotations Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-14 09:50 -0600
                Re: Quotations Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-14 22:38 +0100
                Re: Quotations Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-12-14 23:03 +0000
                Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-15 15:56 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-12-09 14:48 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-09 16:35 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-09 10:18 -0800
                Re: return address manipulation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-09 12:36 -0600
                Re: return address manipulation BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-09 12:07 -0800
                Re: return address manipulation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-10 12:37 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-10 11:49 -0600
                Re: return address manipulation BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-10 10:06 -0800
                Re: return address manipulation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-10 12:37 -0600
                Re: return address manipulation BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-10 11:28 -0800
                Re: return address manipulation "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-12-09 08:39 -1000
                Re: return address manipulation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-10 12:34 +0000
                Re: return address manipulation BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-10 06:39 -0800
                Re: return address manipulation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-11 11:30 +0000
          Re: Memoizing recursive words stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-12-06 17:18 +0000
            Re: Memoizing recursive words Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-07 14:30 +0000
              Re: Memoizing recursive words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-07 15:33 +0000
                Re: Memoizing recursive words Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-07 17:09 +0000
                Re: Memoizing recursive words anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-07 17:26 +0000
      Re: Memoizing recursive words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-07 12:08 -0600
        Re: Memoizing recursive words Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-08 00:05 +0000
          Re: Memoizing recursive words Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-08 03:37 -0600

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