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Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> Re: Valentine Bingo - Comments?

> On 3/3/12 12:32 AM, WJ wrote:

>> This is a good example of the extreme primitiveness of ANS
>> Forth. An array of strings is created, but the language is
>> too brain-dead to be able to count the number of items in
>> the array.

> Wrong.  It just depends on how ANS Forth is used.

Arguments in CLF always follow this path:

Some outsider:
 "You can't do  foo  in Forth,  bar  functionality is missing.
  Forth is only good for flushing toilets."

Then someone shows how to do  foo  or add  bar , exactly solving 
the problem (and probably nothing more than that). 

Statler and Waldorf:
  "That is not standard Forth code."

Given how long it takes to standardize even trivial words, and
given that most functionality will be in library form, which is
in itself not standardized in Forth, the rate of advance is 
glacially slow.

Strangely enough, nowadays progress comes from the vendors. 
It used to be users that dragged the language forward, and 
vendors that pulled the brakes.

-marcel

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  Re: Valentine Bingo - Comments? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-01 23:12 -0800
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  Re: Valentine Bingo - Comments? crc <charles.childers@gmail.com> - 2012-02-03 11:35 -0800
  Re: Valentine Bingo - Comments? Steve Graham <jsgrahamus@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-07 07:39 -0700
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