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  how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-23 10:29 -0700
    Re: how many lines you coded? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-07-23 18:44 +0100
      Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-23 11:12 -0700
    Re: how many lines you coded? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-07-23 20:32 +0200
      Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-23 11:51 -0700
        Re: how many lines you coded? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-07-23 21:18 +0200
          Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 05:10 -0700
            Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 05:19 -0700
              Re: how many lines you coded? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 13:45 +0100
                Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 05:51 -0700
                  Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 06:44 -0700
                    Re: how many lines you coded? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 15:36 +0100
                      Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 07:40 -0700
                  Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 07:29 -0700
                    Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 07:39 -0700
                    Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-25 02:34 -0700
      Re: how many lines you coded? Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-23 20:48 +0100
        Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-23 13:29 -0700
        Re: how many lines you coded? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-07-24 09:02 +0200
          Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 00:27 -0700
            Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 00:35 -0700
              Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 00:45 -0700
                Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 01:18 -0700
                  Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 01:19 -0700
          Re: how many lines you coded? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-07-24 11:21 +0100
            Re: how many lines you coded? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-07-24 20:01 +0200
              Re: how many lines you coded? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-07-24 18:20 +0000
                Re: how many lines you coded? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-07-24 20:49 +0100
                  Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 13:13 -0700
                    Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 13:22 -0700
            Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-25 08:51 -0700
              Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-25 09:16 -0700
              Re: how many lines you coded? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-07-25 18:48 +0100
                Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-25 11:13 -0700
                  Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-25 11:26 -0700
                    Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-25 11:34 -0700
                      Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-25 11:46 -0700
                        Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-25 12:02 -0700
                  Re: how many lines you coded? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-07-25 22:14 +0100
                    Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-25 14:35 -0700
                      Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-25 15:31 -0700
    Re: how many lines you coded? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-07-23 12:42 -0700
      Re: how many lines you coded? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-07-25 20:36 -0700
        Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-26 01:44 -0700
    Re: how many lines you coded? John McCue <jmccue@fuzzball.jmcunx.com> - 2023-07-25 20:26 +0000
      Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-25 14:52 -0700
    Re: how many lines you coded? Ed Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-26 08:04 -0700
      Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-27 01:16 -0700
        Re: how many lines you coded? Ed Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-30 21:38 -0700
    Re: how many lines you coded? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2023-07-28 19:53 -0500
      Re: how many lines you coded? Ed Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-30 21:40 -0700
        Re: how many lines you coded? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-07-31 14:54 +0000
          Re: how many lines you coded? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 23:22 -0500
    Re: how many lines you coded? aph@littlepinkcloud.invalid - 2023-07-31 09:29 +0000
      Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 05:10 -0700
        Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 05:16 -0700
          Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 05:36 -0700
            Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 07:00 -0700
        Re: how many lines you coded? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 05:27 -0700
          Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 05:41 -0700
            Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 05:51 -0700
              Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-07-31 05:59 -0700
          Re: how many lines you coded? aph@littlepinkcloud.invalid - 2023-08-04 17:57 +0000
            Re: how many lines you coded? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-04 11:05 -0700
              Re: how many lines you coded? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-04 19:03 +0000
                Re: how many lines you coded? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-04 12:24 -0700
                  Re: how many lines you coded? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-04 19:27 +0000
                Was Dijkstra a "lefty" ? (Was: how many lines you coded?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-04 19:26 +0000
                  Re: Was Dijkstra a "lefty" ? (Was: how many lines you coded?) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-04 13:54 -0700
                Re: how many lines you coded? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-04 19:47 -0700
                  Again, OT is OT! (Was: how many lines you coded?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-05 03:51 +0000
                  Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-08-05 03:39 -0700
              [OT, Sorry] Re: how many lines you coded? aph@littlepinkcloud.invalid - 2023-08-05 03:02 +0000
            Re: how many lines you coded? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-04 19:41 +0000
    Re: how many lines you coded? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2023-08-01 18:09 +0200
      Re: how many lines you coded? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-08-01 10:17 -0700

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#171468

poniedziałek, 31 lipca 2023 o 14:41:18 UTC+2 fir napisał(a):
> poniedziałek, 31 lipca 2023 o 14:27:23 UTC+2 Malcolm McLean napisał(a): 
> > On Monday, 31 July 2023 at 13:10:40 UTC+1, fir wrote: 
> > > poniedziałek, 31 lipca 2023 o 11:29:44 UTC+2 a...@littlepinkcloud.invalid napisał(a): 
> > > > fir <profes...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > how many lines you coded in your life? if you give an answer try to be real 
> > > > > (and not count data and duplicates) 
> > > > I have no idea. However, I do know it paid for everything, so I guess 
> > > > it was enough. 
> > > > 
> > > > The willingness to accept what is known to be wrong as if it were 
> > > > right was displayed very explicitly by Hamming... As so many others, 
> > > > he expressed in one of his talks programmer productivity in terms of 
> > > > "numbers of lines of code produced". During the discussion I pointed 
> > > > out that a programmer should produce solutions, and that, therefore, 
> > > > we should not talk about the number of lines of code produced, but 
> > > > the number of lines of code used, and that this number ought to be 
> > > > booked on the other side of the ledger. His answer was "Well, I know 
> > > > that it is inadequate, but it is the only thing we can measure." As 
> > > > if this undeniable fact also determines the side of the ledger... 
> > > > 
> > > > EWD 513. Dijkstra, Newcastle, 1975. 
> > > > 
> > > > Andrew. 
> > > honestly beliving in capitalism too much is imo somewhat demential.. 
> > > i recently was thinking what makes many people stupid and thase were 
> > > assumptions (especially false assumptions) ..and this way code that is 
> > > capitalistic is good is imo such way asumption that make stupid 
> > > 
> > > btw pure programing and capitalism is not quite on a way..its rather capitalism 
> > > parasitize on programming.. 
> > > 
> > Dijkstra was a notorious leftie. He was also a very clever man, and of 
> > course he right that trying to measure programming productivity by 
> > counting lines written is idiotic.
> its absolutly not idiotic..its absolutely right... 
> weird is so many people has tendency to oppose obvious things like 2+2=4 
> 
> measuring code by lines is very good.. its not full measure ofc becouse one could write 20k lines in whole life that is much more valuable than much more of something other - but its totally good in some very much important aspect 
> 
> (if dijkstra was leftie it seem to be not as much leftie as I ;c thout i am in a way of rejecting assumptions (which is true leftic imo) sad im getting old and lost form

note btw the problem if being leftic is rejecting assumptions and being rightie is taking assumption , is there a need of political war between left and right ? i think no - it only need of both those kind to conform to some ground rules (which can be found imo, the rules like not killing, not lefting to die - etc).. in fact does this people that make asumptions totally wrong? (probbaly no as making assumptions may have interesting effects probbaly too)

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#171469

poniedziałek, 31 lipca 2023 o 14:51:44 UTC+2 fir napisał(a):
> poniedziałek, 31 lipca 2023 o 14:41:18 UTC+2 fir napisał(a): 
> > poniedziałek, 31 lipca 2023 o 14:27:23 UTC+2 Malcolm McLean napisał(a): 
> > > On Monday, 31 July 2023 at 13:10:40 UTC+1, fir wrote: 
> > > > poniedziałek, 31 lipca 2023 o 11:29:44 UTC+2 a...@littlepinkcloud.invalid napisał(a): 
> > > > > fir <profes...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > > how many lines you coded in your life? if you give an answer try to be real 
> > > > > > (and not count data and duplicates) 
> > > > > I have no idea. However, I do know it paid for everything, so I guess 
> > > > > it was enough. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The willingness to accept what is known to be wrong as if it were 
> > > > > right was displayed very explicitly by Hamming... As so many others, 
> > > > > he expressed in one of his talks programmer productivity in terms of 
> > > > > "numbers of lines of code produced". During the discussion I pointed 
> > > > > out that a programmer should produce solutions, and that, therefore, 
> > > > > we should not talk about the number of lines of code produced, but 
> > > > > the number of lines of code used, and that this number ought to be 
> > > > > booked on the other side of the ledger. His answer was "Well, I know 
> > > > > that it is inadequate, but it is the only thing we can measure." As 
> > > > > if this undeniable fact also determines the side of the ledger... 
> > > > > 
> > > > > EWD 513. Dijkstra, Newcastle, 1975. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Andrew. 
> > > > honestly beliving in capitalism too much is imo somewhat demential.. 
> > > > i recently was thinking what makes many people stupid and thase were 
> > > > assumptions (especially false assumptions) ..and this way code that is 
> > > > capitalistic is good is imo such way asumption that make stupid 
> > > > 
> > > > btw pure programing and capitalism is not quite on a way..its rather capitalism 
> > > > parasitize on programming.. 
> > > > 
> > > Dijkstra was a notorious leftie. He was also a very clever man, and of 
> > > course he right that trying to measure programming productivity by 
> > > counting lines written is idiotic. 
> > its absolutly not idiotic..its absolutely right... 
> > weird is so many people has tendency to oppose obvious things like 2+2=4 
> > 
> > measuring code by lines is very good.. its not full measure ofc becouse one could write 20k lines in whole life that is much more valuable than much more of something other - but its totally good in some very much important aspect 
> > 
> > (if dijkstra was leftie it seem to be not as much leftie as I ;c thout i am in a way of rejecting assumptions (which is true leftic imo) sad im getting old and lost form
> note btw the problem if being leftic is rejecting assumptions and being rightie is taking assumption , is there a need of political war between left and right ? i think no - it only need of both those kind to conform to some ground rules (which can be found imo, the rules like not killing, not lefting to die - etc).. in fact does this people that make asumptions totally wrong? (probbaly no as making assumptions may have interesting effects probbaly too)

those ground rules are probably know as some kind of 'culture' (but not necessarely what everyone calls that) ..sadly todeys there are people who attack this ground rules..and this in fact is wrong imo - but after that imo people who reject many asumptions and people who take many can live in quite peace

(still capitalism for example is damn pack of vulgar assumptions that logically is imo rather terrible)

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#171628

Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> wrote:

> [Edsger] Dijkstra was a notorious leftie. He was also a very clever
> man, and of course he right that trying to measure programming
> productivity by counting lines written is idiotic.

That comment about Dijkstra being a leftie, and even notorious for it,
really struck me. I've been intermittently reading Dijkstra's work for
decades, and I've never come across anything particularly left wing.
Have you got any references for that?

Thanks,

Andrew.

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#171629

On Friday, 4 August 2023 at 18:58:08 UTC+1, a...@littlepinkcloud.invalid wrote:
> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.ar...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > [Edsger] Dijkstra was a notorious leftie. He was also a very clever
> > man, and of course he right that trying to measure programming 
> > productivity by counting lines written is idiotic.
> That comment about Dijkstra being a leftie, and even notorious for it, 
> really struck me. I've been intermittently reading Dijkstra's work for 
> decades, and I've never come across anything particularly left wing. 
> Have you got any references for that? 
> 
> Thanks, 
>
You haven't been around long enough to remember Edward Nilges. He's
now sadly deceased (he reconciled with the Church before death so is
now almost certainly in heaven). Nilges was very fond of quoting 
Dijkstra in support of his views.

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#171636

Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> writes:
>On Friday, 4 August 2023 at 18:58:08 UTC+1, a...@littlepinkcloud.invalid wrote:
>> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.ar...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> > [Edsger] Dijkstra was a notorious leftie. He was also a very clever
>> > man, and of course he right that trying to measure programming 
>> > productivity by counting lines written is idiotic.
>> That comment about Dijkstra being a leftie, and even notorious for it, 
>> really struck me. I've been intermittently reading Dijkstra's work for 
>> decades, and I've never come across anything particularly left wing. 
>> Have you got any references for that? 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>>
>You haven't been around long enough to remember Edward Nilges. He's
>now sadly deceased (he reconciled with the Church before death so is
>now almost certainly in heaven). Nilges was very fond of quoting 
>Dijkstra in support of his views.

That doesn't answer the question.

What, specifically, has Dijkstra said that supports your assertion
that he was a "notorious lefty".    He actually did some work for a
former employer of mine, and I never heard anything to that effect.

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#171637

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
[...]
> What, specifically, has Dijkstra said that supports your assertion
> that he was a "notorious lefty".    He actually did some work for a
> former employer of mine, and I never heard anything to that effect.

Why is comp.lang.c the place to discuss this?

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Will write code for food.
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#171639

In article <87o7jmk3ue.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>,
Keith Thompson  <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>[...]
>> What, specifically, has Dijkstra said that supports your assertion
>> that he was a "notorious lefty".    He actually did some work for a
>> former employer of mine, and I never heard anything to that effect.
>
>Why is comp.lang.c the place to discuss this?

This thread was OT from the get-go.  Why complain about it now?

-- 
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(and will probably do so again). Everything else is secondary to that. Everything else
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#171638 — Was Dijkstra a "lefty" ? (Was: how many lines you coded?)

In article <jYbzM.81709$cc2c.61610@fx37.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
...
>What, specifically, has Dijkstra said that supports your assertion
>that he was a "notorious lefty".    He actually did some work for a
>former employer of mine, and I never heard anything to that effect.

I think that in order to correctly evaluate your question, and, thus, once
evaluates, to sensibly answer it, we need to know what Malcolm's intent was.

Specifically, we need to know whether he intended he depiction of Dijkstra
as a complement or as an insult.

Normally, on Usenet, I would assume the former, but nowadays, there's a lot
of those types who've gotten access.

-- 
"It does a lot of things half well and it's just a garbage heap of ideas that are
mutually exclusive."

	- Ken Thompson, on C++ -

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#171642 — Re: Was Dijkstra a "lefty" ? (Was: how many lines you coded?)

On Friday, 4 August 2023 at 20:27:08 UTC+1, Kenny McCormack wrote:
> In article <jYbzM.81709$cc2c....@fx37.iad>, 
> Scott Lurndal <sl...@pacbell.net> wrote: 
> ...
> >What, specifically, has Dijkstra said that supports your assertion 
> >that he was a "notorious lefty". He actually did some work for a 
> >former employer of mine, and I never heard anything to that effect.
> I think that in order to correctly evaluate your question, and, thus, once 
> evaluates, to sensibly answer it, we need to know what Malcolm's intent was. 
> 
> Specifically, we need to know whether he intended he depiction of Dijkstra 
> as a complement or as an insult. 
> 
It was just a lighthearted comment. Dijkstra complained about managers 
using lines coded as a measure of programmers productivity. But that
should be seen in the context of his overall views.
' 

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#171655

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Friday, 4 August 2023 , a...@littlepinkcloud.invalid wrote:
>>
>>> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [Edsger] Dijkstra was a notorious leftie.  He was also a very
>>>> clever man, and of course he right that trying to measure
>>>> programming productivity by counting lines written is idiotic.
>>>
>>> That comment about Dijkstra being a leftie, and even notorious for
>>> it, really struck me.  I've been intermittently reading Dijkstra's
>>> work for decades, and I've never come across anything particularly
>>> left wing.  Have you got any references for that?
>>
>> You haven't been around long enough to remember Edward Nilges.
>> He's now sadly deceased (he reconciled with the Church before death
>> so is now almost certainly in heaven).  Nilges was very fond of
>> quoting Dijkstra in support of his views.
>
> That doesn't answer the question.
>
> What, specifically, has Dijkstra said that supports your assertion
> that he was a "notorious lefty".  He actually did some work for a
> former employer of mine, and I never heard anything to that effect.

I recognize that you are sincere in asking your question,
but I would like to ask everyone please keep any discussion
or comments (whether lighthearted or not) about politics
or religion out of comp.lang.c.  We have more than enough
useless traffic as it is.

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#171659 — Again, OT is OT! (Was: how many lines you coded?)

In article <861qgigq8i.fsf@linuxsc.com>,
Tim Rentsch  <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
...
>sincere ask not) We recognize I comments religion traffic in everyone
>about have that would (whether out as asking please politics more you
>like lighthearted of it question, your any keep enough than discussion
>are to or comp.lang.c.  is.  I but or or useless

w/e

As I said, this whole thread was and is OT from the get-go, so why should
you start complaining about it now?

-- 
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"extremely inappropriate" for the president to nominate a Supreme Court justice on a
day ending with the letter "Y", and she said that "Biden is putting the demands of the
radical progressive left ahead of what is best for our nation."

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#171665

sobota, 5 sierpnia 2023 o 04:47:23 UTC+2 Tim Rentsch napisał(a):
> sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes: 
> 
> > Malcolm McLean <malcolm.ar...@gmail.com> writes: 
> >
> >> On Friday, 4 August 2023 , a...@littlepinkcloud.invalid wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.ar...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>>> [Edsger] Dijkstra was a notorious leftie. He was also a very 
> >>>> clever man, and of course he right that trying to measure 
> >>>> programming productivity by counting lines written is idiotic. 
> >>> 
> >>> That comment about Dijkstra being a leftie, and even notorious for 
> >>> it, really struck me. I've been intermittently reading Dijkstra's 
> >>> work for decades, and I've never come across anything particularly 
> >>> left wing. Have you got any references for that? 
> >>
> >> You haven't been around long enough to remember Edward Nilges. 
> >> He's now sadly deceased (he reconciled with the Church before death 
> >> so is now almost certainly in heaven). Nilges was very fond of 
> >> quoting Dijkstra in support of his views. 
> > 
> > That doesn't answer the question. 
> > 
> > What, specifically, has Dijkstra said that supports your assertion 
> > that he was a "notorious lefty". He actually did some work for a 
> > former employer of mine, and I never heard anything to that effect.
> I recognize that you are sincere in asking your question, 
> but I would like to ask everyone please keep any discussion 
> or comments (whether lighthearted or not) about politics 
> or religion out of comp.lang.c. We have more than enough 
> useless traffic as it is.

the politic came into this group here from side as some
people who share view that capitalism programing is more
'decent' that other programming ..
pure programing has nothing to capitalism imo

in soeme funny way politics also show as kind of assumptions people make (for example the sahared ideas thet this gorup should 
talk almost exclusively on c standard (which for me for
example are such marginal problemst nearly no use at all)
is political view )

overally when those deadly sh*T trolls vanished nice to see this group is in so much good form

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#171658 — [OT, Sorry] Re: how many lines you coded?

Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 4 August 2023 at 18:58:08 UTC+1, a...@littlepinkcloud.invalid wrote:
>> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.ar...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> > [Edsger] Dijkstra was a notorious leftie. He was also a very clever
>> > man, and of course he right that trying to measure programming 
>> > productivity by counting lines written is idiotic.
>> That comment about Dijkstra being a leftie, and even notorious for it, 
>> really struck me. I've been intermittently reading Dijkstra's work for 
>> decades, and I've never come across anything particularly left wing. 
>> Have you got any references for that? 
>>
> You haven't been around long enough to remember Edward Nilges.

Au contraire, I definitely remember Nilgewater. But I suspect that he
quoted Dijkstra like a drunken man uses a lampost: more for support
than illumination.

LOL,

Andrew.

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#171640

On 2023-08-04, aph@littlepinkcloud.invalid <aph@littlepinkcloud.invalid> wrote:
> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [Edsger] Dijkstra was a notorious leftie. He was also a very clever
>> man, and of course he right that trying to measure programming
>> productivity by counting lines written is idiotic.
>
> That comment about Dijkstra being a leftie, and even notorious for it,
> really struck me. I've been intermittently reading Dijkstra's work for
> decades, and I've never come across anything particularly left wing.
> Have you got any references for that?

Dikjstra: GO TO bad; follow structure.

Communism: GO TO other country bad; stay home, follow structure.

Checks out for me.

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#171500

fir ha scritto:
> how many lines you coded in your life? if you give an answer try to be real
> (and not count data and duplicates)
> i myself estimated 200-300k hovever after thinking i think it may be closer to 200k (my newer projects take about 130k or something more but i also got some older i coand count now.. i would say for sure it was no less than 170k but how many above this thios one i can count/memorize now)
> 
> are you able to estimate?
> 

Forgive me but it seems to me a statistic that will not lead to any
interesting results. I think that every developer, as his experience
increases, he will write more and more reusable code and, consequently,
he will write less code taking advantage of his personal library.

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#171505

wtorek, 1 sierpnia 2023 o 18:09:45 UTC+2 jak napisał(a):
> fir ha scritto:
> > how many lines you coded in your life? if you give an answer try to be real 
> > (and not count data and duplicates)
> > i myself estimated 200-300k hovever after thinking i think it may be closer to 200k (my newer projects take about 130k or something more but i also got some older i coand count now.. i would say for sure it was no less than 170k but how many above this thios one i can count/memorize now) 
> >
> > are you able to estimate? 
> >
> Forgive me but it seems to me a statistic that will not lead to any 
> interesting results. I think that every developer, as his experience 
> increases, he will write more and more reusable code and, consequently, 
> he will write less code taking advantage of his personal library.

if he vrites library its still a code, and if he uses it it is still a code..dont matter
if it is in library or in project part

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