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wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, 2026-04-14 at 21:46 -0700, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes:
>> > On Tue, 2026-04-14 at 15:31 -0700, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> > > wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes:
>> > > > In attempting writting a simple language, I had a thought of what language is
>> > > > to share. Because I saw many people are stuck in thinking C/C++ (or other
>> > > > high level language) can be so abstract, unlimited 'high level' to mysteriously
>> > > > solve various human description of idea.
>> > > > 
>> > > > C and assembly are essentially the same, maybe better call it 'portable assembly'.
>> > > 
>> > > No, C is not any kind of assembly.  Assembly language and C are
>> > > fundamentally different.
>> > > 
>> > > An assembly language program specifies a sequence of CPU instructions.
>> > 
>> > [Repeat] 'Assembly' can also be like C:
>> >  // This is 'assembly'
>> >  def int=32bit;   // Choose right bits for your platform, or leave it for
>> >  def char= 8bit;  // compiler to decide.
>> 
>> Compiler?  You said this was assembly.
>> 
>> >  int a;
>> >  char b;
>> >  a=b;   // allow auto promotion
>> > 
>> >  while(a<b) {
>> >    a+=1;
>> >  }
>> 
>> You've claimed that that's assembly language.  What assembler?
>> For what CPU?
>> 
>> Is it even for a real assembler?
>
> I think you realize the example above is just an example to demo my idea.

I hadn't.  I realize it now that you've admitted it.

In other words, you made it up.

I don't believe there is any real-world assembler that accepts
that syntax.  Your example is meaningless.

For every assembler I've used, the assembly language input
unambiguously specifies the sequence of CPU instructions in the
generated object file.  Support for macros do not change that;
it just means the mapping is slightly more complicated.

Cite an example of an existing real-world assembler that does not
behave that way, and we might have something interesting to discuss.

>> > Yes, the C-like example above specifies exactly a sequence of CPU instructions
>> > (well, small deviation is allowed, and assembly can also have function, macro)
>> > 
>> > > A C program specifies run-time behavior.  (A compiler generates CPU
>> > > instructions behind the scenes to implement that behavior.)
>> > 
>> > Being 'portable', it should specify 'run-time behavior', no exact instructions.
>> 
>> Yes, that's what I said.  And that's the fundamental difference between
>> assembly and C.
>
> How/what do you specify 'run-time behavior'? Not based on CPU?

The C standard defines "behavior" as "external appearance or action",
which is admittedly vague.  Run-time behavior is what happens when the
program is running on the target system.  It includes things like input
and output, either to a console or to files.

The C standard specifies the behavior of this program:

    #include <stdio.h>
    int main(void) { puts("hello, world"); }

It does so without reference to any CPU.  (Of course some CPU will be
used to implement that behavior.)

> E.g. in C, int types are fixed-size, have range, wrap-around, alignment
> and 'atomic','overlapping' properties, you cannot really understand or hide it and
> program C/C++ correctly from the high-level concept of 'integer'.
>
> The point is that C has NO WAY get rid of these (hard-ware) features, no matter
> how high-level one thinks C is or expect C would be.

Right, C doesn't directly support abstract mathematical integers.
Of course I agree that C is a lower level language than many others.
Python, for example, has reasonably transparent support for integers
of arbitrary width.  Python is a higher level language than C.
(Notably, the Python interpreter is written in C).

That doesn't make C an assembly language.

[...]

> When I heard 'sophisticated assemblers', I would think something like
> my idea of 'portable' assembly, but maybe different.   One my point
> should be clear as stated in the above int example "... C has NO WAY
> get rid of these (hard-ware) features, no matter how high-level one
> thinks C is or expect C would be."

Again, yes, C is a relatively low-level language.  And again,
C is not an assembly language.

And again, if you can cite a real-world example of the kind of
"sophisticated assembler" you're talking about, that would be an
interesting data point.

--  
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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                Re: A thought of C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-04-23 21:17 -0400
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-23 14:08 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-23 23:18 +0100
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-24 01:31 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-23 17:51 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 18:19 -0700
                Re: A thought of C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-04-23 21:34 -0400
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-24 04:26 +0200
                Re: A thought of C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-04-24 20:26 -0400
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 18:21 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 18:21 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 18:20 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 18:23 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 18:27 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 18:57 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 20:26 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 23:03 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 23:50 -0700
                Re: A thought of C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-04-25 12:04 -0400
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 12:00 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-25 21:24 +0100
                Re: A thought of C Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-25 13:52 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-25 22:27 +0100
                Re: A thought of C Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-26 00:48 +0300
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 15:49 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-26 02:24 +0300
                Re: A thought of C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-04-25 20:07 -0400
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 17:14 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-26 04:34 +0200
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 18:08 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-25 17:20 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-26 01:47 +0100
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 18:40 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-25 19:58 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 15:39 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-26 00:53 +0100
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 18:27 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-26 02:41 +0100
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 19:03 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 19:08 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-26 05:04 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-26 12:32 +0100
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-26 15:13 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-26 16:27 +0300
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-26 17:19 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-26 15:34 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-27 19:30 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-26 12:14 +0100
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-26 15:23 -0700
                Re: A thought of C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-04-26 20:02 -0400
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-26 04:24 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 20:05 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-26 05:16 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 21:26 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-26 17:51 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 15:31 -0700
                Re: A thought of C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-04-25 20:19 -0400
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 18:11 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 18:34 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-26 20:58 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 18:44 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 20:24 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 23:01 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 23:49 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 20:26 -0700
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-23 09:42 +0200
                Re: A thought of C antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-20 13:49 +0000
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-20 18:34 +0100
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-20 22:57 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-20 23:03 +0100
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-21 10:53 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-21 02:56 -0700
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-21 14:10 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-21 21:04 -0700
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-22 08:28 +0200
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                Re: A thought of C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-21 14:27 +0000
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-21 15:38 +0100
                Re: A thought of C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-21 15:38 +0000
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                Re: A thought of C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-21 17:28 +0000
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-22 11:13 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-21 19:11 +0300
                Re: A thought of C Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-21 21:09 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-22 15:16 +0100
                Re: A thought of C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-22 15:13 +0000
                Re: A thought of C Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-22 18:26 +0300
                Re: A thought of C Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2026-04-22 16:09 +0000
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-23 08:18 +0200
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-23 01:56 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-24 02:29 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-23 18:18 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-24 03:57 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-23 19:11 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-23 09:14 -0700
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-22 17:27 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-22 18:52 +0300
                Re: A thought of C Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-22 20:39 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-23 13:15 +0300
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-23 12:50 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-23 08:46 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-24 02:40 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-23 18:31 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-22 20:37 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-23 02:37 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-23 06:46 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-19 16:54 +0300
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-19 16:02 +0100
                Re: A thought of C antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-20 00:49 +0000
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-20 17:17 +0100
                Re: A thought of C antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-26 22:57 +0000
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-27 02:55 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-27 02:06 +0100
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-19 15:36 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-17 10:25 -0700
                Re: A thought of C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-04-17 16:30 -0400
        Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 12:20 +0800
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            Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 19:52 +0800
              Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-15 14:24 +0100
                Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 00:40 +0800
  Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 15:31 -0700
    Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 12:15 +0800
      Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 21:46 -0700
        Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 14:05 +0800
          Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 10:24 +0200
          Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-15 11:46 +0100
            Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 20:21 +0800
              Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 20:26 +0800
              Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 15:38 +0200
                Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 00:58 +0800
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 22:11 +0200
                Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 05:38 +0800
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 15:48 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 23:31 -0700
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-16 09:13 +0200
                Re: A thought of C antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-16 04:43 +0000
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-16 09:23 +0200
                Re: A thought of C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-16 14:38 +0000
                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-16 17:05 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2026-04-16 15:11 +0000
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-16 17:43 +0200
                Re: A thought of C Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2026-04-16 16:23 +0000
                Re: A thought of C cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-16 19:48 +0000
                Re: A thought of C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-16 19:04 +0000
                Re: A thought of C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-16 19:01 +0000
                Re: A thought of C Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 15:34 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 23:29 -0700
              Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-15 15:06 +0100
                Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 05:12 +0800
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-15 23:52 +0100
                Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 07:30 +0800
                Re: A thought of C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-16 00:50 +0100
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                Re: A thought of C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-16 09:35 +0200
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 23:37 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 23:40 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 23:47 -0700
                Re: A thought of C Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:19 +0200
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 14:28 -0700
                Re: A thought of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 23:34 -0700
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            Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 07:22 +0800
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  Re: A thought of C makendo <makendo@makendo.invalid> - 2026-04-15 21:40 +0800
    Re: A thought of C Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-04-15 10:51 -0400
      Re: A thought of C makendo <makendo@makendo.invalid> - 2026-04-16 12:44 +0800
    Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 01:11 +0800
    Re: A thought of C 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-04-15 20:23 +0200
      Re: A thought of C "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-04-15 21:01 +0100
        Re: A thought of C 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-04-15 22:40 +0200
          Re: A thought of C "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-04-16 11:38 +0100
    Re: A thought of C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-19 07:41 +0000
  Re: A thought of C Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-15 17:14 -0700
    Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 09:27 +0800
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          Re: A thought of C gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-04-16 13:10 +0000
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          Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 22:14 +0800
            Re: A thought of C wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-04-18 22:17 +0800
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