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Re: A request, and a question

From Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: A request, and a question
Date 2024-01-30 12:49 -0800
Organization None to speak of
Message-ID <87plxi4kdw.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> (permalink)
References <86h6ixcj2c.fsf@linuxsc.com> <ACClDmHp8lLCxWc1B@bongo-ra.co> <up9ve1$roj9$1@dont-email.me> <87o7d35rez.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>

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Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
>> On 1/28/24 16:17, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
> [...]
>>> James himself explains it in  <uop3fd$1d8ao$1@dont-email.me> .And it is
>>> an example of an incorrectly threaded message : his quotations show that
>>> it is meant as a direct response to you but the last item in
>>> References:  is  <uje6vv$gei$1@dont-email.me>  which is another post by
>>> James.
>>
>> Those links don't work for me. They are interpreted as mailto:// links,
>> and the link itself says not to mail them. I don't know what to do with
>> them, and neither do Thunderbird or (when I'm using Google Groups)
>> Firefox or Chrome.
>
> Those are Message-IDs, not links.
>
> For example, your article to which I'm replying has this header line:
>
>     Message-ID: <up9ve1$roj9$1@dont-email.me>
>
> There isn't necessarily a good way to look up an article given its
> Message-ID.  The newsreader I use, Gnus, has a 'j' command
> (gnus-summary-goto-article) that takes either an article number (a
> sequential number within a newsgroup, specific to a given NNTP server)
> or a Message-ID (should be unique across all of Usenet) as an argument.
>
> I don't know whether Thunderbird has a similar feature.
>
> There's a package called "sinntp", a "tiny non-interactive NNTP client",
> that includes a command "nttp-get" that can fetch an article given its
> Message-ID (if you specify the server and authentication information).
>
> [...]

In what I presume was a misdirected email, James Kuyper wrote:

    Thunderbird displays them as clickable links. When I use Google
    Groups to view the message, Firefox and Chrome both display them as
    clickable links. Unfortunately, they don't work. It's those links I
    was talking about.

Right, that's not surprising.  They're not links, but they look like
links, and Thunderbird incorrectly treats them as links.

Email addresses are commonly written in the form <user@example.com>, so
programs like Thunderbird will recognize that format and makes them
clickable.

Usenet Message-IDs are commonly of the form <arbitrary-text@example.com>,
so they look like email addresses.  (I don't think "up9ve1$roj9$1" is a
valid user name, but Thunderbird might not check that.)  It's likely
that Thunderbird assumes the angle brackets are decoration, and treats
only the text between them as a link.

Given the similarity, false positives are almost inevitable.  The
alternative would be to recognize email addresses only in "mailto:"
URLs, but that would be user-hostile.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
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  Re: A request, and a question Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-01-28 21:17 +0000
    Re: A request, and a question Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-01-29 11:36 -0800
    Re: A request, and a question John McCue <jmccue@qball.jmcunx.com> - 2024-01-29 21:49 +0000
      Re: A request, and a question Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-01-30 14:59 +0200
      Re: A request, and a question Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 16:47 +0000
    Re: A request, and a question James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-01-29 23:54 -0500
      Re: A request, and a question Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-29 21:19 -0800
        Re: A request, and a question Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-01-30 00:45 -0500
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            Re: A request, and a question Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 13:06 -0800
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                Re: A request, and a question Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-02-03 09:17 -0500
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      Re: A request, and a question David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-30 09:54 +0100
        Re: A request, and a question mjos_examine <m6502x64@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 09:53 -0500
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      Re: A request, and a question tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-01-30 11:14 +0100
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  Re: A request, and a question Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-29 00:26 +0000
    Re: A request, and a question Anthony Cuozzo <anthony@cuozzo.us> - 2024-01-28 23:57 -0500
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