Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Keith Thompson Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: A request, and a question Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2024 12:49:15 -0800 Organization: None to speak of Lines: 63 Message-ID: <87plxi4kdw.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> References: <86h6ixcj2c.fsf@linuxsc.com> <87o7d35rez.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="890b188af402beeba685e2c9fa345c6c"; logging-data="1206485"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX193/86YW6gKf49luWdMeyPV" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dXd9W5/4R1WrgQjhHDyv22FTaX0= sha1:vqqr8h6Cm7CrM/puXf2CEN7aldU= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.c:381283 Keith Thompson writes: > James Kuyper writes: >> On 1/28/24 16:17, Spiros Bousbouras wrote: > [...] >>> James himself explains it in .And it is >>> an example of an incorrectly threaded message : his quotations show that >>> it is meant as a direct response to you but the last item in >>> References: is which is another post by >>> James. >> >> Those links don't work for me. They are interpreted as mailto:// links, >> and the link itself says not to mail them. I don't know what to do with >> them, and neither do Thunderbird or (when I'm using Google Groups) >> Firefox or Chrome. > > Those are Message-IDs, not links. > > For example, your article to which I'm replying has this header line: > > Message-ID: > > There isn't necessarily a good way to look up an article given its > Message-ID. The newsreader I use, Gnus, has a 'j' command > (gnus-summary-goto-article) that takes either an article number (a > sequential number within a newsgroup, specific to a given NNTP server) > or a Message-ID (should be unique across all of Usenet) as an argument. > > I don't know whether Thunderbird has a similar feature. > > There's a package called "sinntp", a "tiny non-interactive NNTP client", > that includes a command "nttp-get" that can fetch an article given its > Message-ID (if you specify the server and authentication information). > > [...] In what I presume was a misdirected email, James Kuyper wrote: Thunderbird displays them as clickable links. When I use Google Groups to view the message, Firefox and Chrome both display them as clickable links. Unfortunately, they don't work. It's those links I was talking about. Right, that's not surprising. They're not links, but they look like links, and Thunderbird incorrectly treats them as links. Email addresses are commonly written in the form , so programs like Thunderbird will recognize that format and makes them clickable. Usenet Message-IDs are commonly of the form , so they look like email addresses. (I don't think "up9ve1$roj9$1" is a valid user name, but Thunderbird might not check that.) It's likely that Thunderbird assumes the angle brackets are decoration, and treats only the text between them as a link. Given the similarity, false positives are almost inevitable. The alternative would be to recognize email addresses only in "mailto:" URLs, but that would be user-hostile. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */