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Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming

From Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming
Date 2023-09-25 18:43 -0700
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Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> writes:

> On 2023-09-25, Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
>
>> Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> writes:
>>
>>> People reviewing C code should know the utter basics, like that short
>>> promotes to int.  This is not an unreasonable expectation.
>>
>> Amusing, in light of what follows.
>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> h only makes sense if you're passing a signed argument and want it
>>> printed as unsigned.  Say we have 16 bit short and 32 bit int.
>>> Then "%u"/(short) -1 will print as 429496725, whereas "%hu"/(short) -1
>>> will obtain the desired 65535.
>>
>> Both of those have undefined behavior.
>
> Not both;  the second one is okay.

That is right.  The wording in C11 is not completely clear on
the question;  however, wording in the C23 draft clarifies the
issue, and establishes that the behavior in this particular
case is well-defined.

It's still a bad idea IMO to use %hu with an argument that
has (before promotion) a signed type, but that's a style
issue, and doesn't change the definedness of this case.

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Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-09 13:23 +0300
  Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-09 03:56 -0700
  Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-09 15:06 +0000
  Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-09-09 15:44 +0000
  Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-09-10 17:57 +0000
    Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-10 23:49 +0300
      Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-10 21:25 +0000
  Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-12 16:07 -0700
    Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-17 00:44 +0300
  Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-17 16:51 -0700
    Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-19 01:10 +0300
      Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-19 07:58 -0700
      Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-19 10:33 -0700
        Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-19 15:08 -0700
          Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-19 15:35 -0700
          Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-19 22:49 +0000
            Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-19 22:30 -0700
              Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-20 02:46 -0700
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-20 07:06 -0700
              Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-20 21:03 +0000
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-25 14:08 -0700
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-25 21:27 +0000
          Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-19 22:17 -0700
        Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-24 00:39 +0300
          Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> - 2023-09-23 21:48 +0000
          Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-09-24 00:15 -0400
          Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-09-24 11:48 +0000
            Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-24 16:08 +0000
              Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-25 13:21 -0700
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-25 21:06 +0000
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-25 18:43 -0700
              Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-25 23:14 +0000
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-25 19:00 -0700
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-26 02:38 +0000
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-25 23:42 -0700
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-25 19:38 -0700
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-25 23:41 -0700
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 02:42 -0700
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-10-03 03:29 -0700
            Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-24 16:11 +0000
            Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-09-24 12:28 -0400
              Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-24 17:10 +0000
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-09-24 13:56 -0400
            Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-09-30 13:50 +0300
              Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-10-01 17:43 +0000
          Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-25 09:21 -0700
            Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-25 18:06 +0000
              Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-25 15:24 -0700
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-25 23:49 +0000
                Re: Dymamic arrays: memory management and naming Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-26 00:07 +0000

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