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Re: So You Think You Can Const?

From Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: So You Think You Can Const?
Date 2025-01-12 22:38 -0800
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Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> writes:

> On 01/10/25 10:37 AM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>
>> Destruction by malloc is modifying in any system that recycles the
>> memory for another allocation.
>
> From such a radically "physical" point of view, nothing is and nothing
> will ever be `const`... Sorry, this is not even close to what
> "constness" in C is about.
>
> In C and C++ (as well in virtually all higher level languages)
> "constness" is not a physical concept.  It is a purely high-level
> logic-level concept, designed, implemented and enforced entirely by
> the author of the code (of the public interface of the module) in
> accordance with their intent.
>
> It has absolutely no relation to any physical modifications that might
> occur anywhere in the execution environment.  Nobody cares whether
> something somewhere gets "modified".  It is always a question of
> whether _I_ want to recognize such modifications as part of the public
> interface designed by me.  I'm the one who says whether the operation
> is "constant" or not, based purely on my idea of "logical constness".
>
> That's the reason `const` exists in C (and C++).
>
> However (returning to the more narrowly focused matter at hand), two
> things - creation and deletion of objects - will always indisputably
> stand apart as operations that transcend/defeat/ignore the idea of
> "constness" with relation to the object itself.  Creation/deletion
> might logically be seen as "non-constant" wrt to the surrounding
> environment (e.g. memory manager), but wrt to the object itself they
> shall not (and, obviously, cannot) care about its "constness" at all.
>
> An object begins being `const` only after the process of its creation
> (construction) is complete.  [...]

This idea doesn't match how C semantics works.  In particular, an
object in C can be "created" (start its lifetime) before it is
"constructed" (initialized).  Consider the following code:

    #include <stdio.h>

    int
    main(){
        int i = 0;
        const int *p;
        {
          MORE:
            if(  i > 0  )  printf( "  i, *p :  %2d %2d\n", i, *p  );
            const int j = i+7;
            p = &j;
            i++;
            if(  i < 10  )  goto MORE;
        }
        return  0;
    }

The object for j comes into existence once when the inner compound
statement is entered, but it is initialized 10 times.  The access
to j through *p has well-defined behavior.  The initializing
declaration for j (which is also a definition) does not modify the
value of j, in the sense that the C standard uses the term, but
only initializes j, even though the same object is being
initialized over and over.

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          Re: What is wrong with malloc? (Was: So You Think You Can Const?) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2025-01-09 10:07 +0100
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                Re: So You Think You Can Const? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-01-12 16:25 -0800
            Re: So You Think You Can Const? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-01-11 10:58 -0500
      Re: So You Think You Can Const? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-01-10 19:28 +0000
        Re: So You Think You Can Const? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-01-12 14:57 +0100
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  Re: So You Think You Can Const? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 16:46 -0800
  Re: So You Think You Can Const? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-15 02:09 +0000
    Re: So You Think You Can Const? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-01-15 09:39 +0100
      Re: So You Think You Can Const? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2025-01-15 13:52 +0100
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