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From Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
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Date Wed, 04 Dec 2024 19:53:38 -0800
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Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 00:04:32 -0000 (UTC)
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Simula pioneered OO.  But the concept has gone in different
>> directions since then.  For example, multiple inheritance, metaclasses
>> and classes as objects -- all things that Python supports.
>
> What I read seems to suggest that Smalltalk had bigger influence on
> modern twists of OOP.  But then, may be Simula influenced Smalltalk?

There is no question that Simula had an influence on the development
of Smalltalk;  Alan Kay has said as much -

   https://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~ram/pub/pub_jf47ht81Ht/doc_kay_oop_en

But the ideas of object-oriented programming came before Smalltalk
(and also before Simula).  It was the ideas underlying object-oriented
programming that influenced the Smalltalk language, not the other way
around.  (To be fair here I should add that other factors undoubtedly
influenced Smalltalk as well.)


> Anyway, I don't like OOP very much, esp. so the version of it that was
> pushed down our throats in late 80s and early 90s.

Almost everyone who took Simula and C++ as the archetype for OOP
never understood it.

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    Re: logically weird loop Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-20 23:53 +0000
      Re: logically weird loop Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-11-21 07:06 +0100
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            Re: logically weird loop Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-11-21 13:26 +0100
              Re: logically weird loop fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2024-11-21 14:05 +0100
                Re: logically weird loop Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-11-21 21:45 +0100
                Re: logically weird loop fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 18:19 +0100
        Re: logically weird loop Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-22 00:04 +0000
          Re: logically weird loop Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-11-22 06:09 +0100
          Re: logically weird loop Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-22 16:05 +0200
            Re: logically weird loop fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 18:23 +0100
              Re: logically weird loop fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 18:27 +0100
            Re: logically weird loop Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 19:53 -0800
              Re: logically weird loop Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 12:21 +0100
                Re: logically weird loop David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-05 16:06 +0100
                Re: logically weird loop Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 17:14 +0100
        Re: logically weird loop Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 17:07 -0800
          Re: logically weird loop Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 12:41 +0100
            Re: logically weird loop Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 10:18 -0800
              Re: logically weird loop Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 13:53 -0800
                Re: logically weird loop Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-12-08 03:52 +0000
                Re: logically weird loop Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-01-18 18:43 -0800
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