Re: logically weird loop

From	Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: logically weird loop
Date	2024-12-04 19:53 -0800
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Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 00:04:32 -0000 (UTC)
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Simula pioneered OO.  But the concept has gone in different
>> directions since then.  For example, multiple inheritance, metaclasses
>> and classes as objects -- all things that Python supports.
>
> What I read seems to suggest that Smalltalk had bigger influence on
> modern twists of OOP.  But then, may be Simula influenced Smalltalk?

There is no question that Simula had an influence on the development
of Smalltalk;  Alan Kay has said as much -

   https://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~ram/pub/pub_jf47ht81Ht/doc_kay_oop_en

But the ideas of object-oriented programming came before Smalltalk
(and also before Simula).  It was the ideas underlying object-oriented
programming that influenced the Smalltalk language, not the other way
around.  (To be fair here I should add that other factors undoubtedly
influenced Smalltalk as well.)

> Anyway, I don't like OOP very much, esp. so the version of it that was
> pushed down our throats in late 80s and early 90s.

Almost everyone who took Simula and C++ as the archetype for OOP
never understood it.

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