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Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory

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"How did we arrive at this bizarre situation where people think it's a
good idea to have 30-odd programs on a PC -- including the OS itself
-- that are all essentially betas on update drip-feeds?"
LMAO!! Thanks for the chuckle (and the coffee on my screen ;-)
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On Jun 23, 9:28 am, "Mayayana" <mayay...@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> --
> | >    I set up my installer to remove restrictions on the
> | > program folder during install, so that I can avoid
> | > the Vista/7 mess without creating any security risks.
> |
> | Erm... removing the restrictions on the installation folder is doing the
> | exact opposite and opening the system wide up.
> | It means that any infection or malicious user can spread to other
> | users/root the machine if spread to an admin user.
> |
>
>    I don't know what sort of scenarion you're talking about.
> An unhappy employee might decide to swap out your DLL
> so that next time your program calls that DLL it erases
> your hard disk? I guess that's possible, if one removes
> restrictions from the parent program folder. Of course,
> that person might also take a hammer to the PC when
> no one is looking. (Hopefully no one here is shipping
> hammers with their software.)
>
>    In my case I'm only removing restrictions from subfolders
> where the program reads/writes settings and stored data.
> The software is mainly aimed at people who own their PCs,
> who trust others using those PCs, and who are unlikely to
> be using per-user settings. I also inform about the situation
> during install, so that a corporate Admin can change restrictions
> after install if they want to.
>
>   It wasn't clear what Bill wants to update. If it includes
> executables and the PC user is a restricted corporate
> employee who's not supposed to be able to do anything but
> write Word docs and save them to a personal folder then I'd
> agree with your first post -- non-admins shouldn't be able
> to do such updating.
>
> | The whole reason they are read only is so that infections and
> | stupid/malicious users are mitigated against.
> |
>
>    Yes. There's certainly a time and a place for that. But you're
> applying a principle out of context. ... It's rather a strange world
> where people assume that the person using *any* PC is a menace,
> while any software on that PC is assumed to be entirely trustworthy,
> enough so that it's allowed unfettered communication and downloading
> of files from online. You get all worked up about changing permissions
> on non-personal folders, but you have nothing to say about a much
> more serious issue here: an installed software program that is
> designed to update itself silently without asking...and all the implied
> security risks involved with that. Just because MS
> and Google do it, that doesn't make it right, or safe, or advisable in
> terms of system stability. How did we arrive at this bizarre situation
> where people think it's a good idea to have 30-odd programs on a
> PC -- including the OS itself -- that are all essentially betas on update
> drip-feeds?

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"Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Bill <bbuntain@gmail.com> - 2011-06-22 08:27 -0700
  Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2011-06-22 16:51 +0100
    Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Bill <bbuntain@gmail.com> - 2011-06-22 13:21 -0700
  Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory "Nobody" <trinity@nobody.com> - 2011-06-22 11:52 -0400
    Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2011-06-22 17:06 +0100
      Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Karl E. Peterson <karl@exmvps.org> - 2011-06-24 14:35 -0700
        Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory "Thorsten Albers" <gudea@gmx.de> - 2011-06-24 22:59 +0000
          Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Karl E. Peterson <karl@exmvps.org> - 2011-06-24 17:00 -0700
        Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Tony Toews <ttoews@telusplanet.net> - 2011-06-28 16:13 -0600
          Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Karl E. Peterson <karl@exmvps.org> - 2011-06-28 15:28 -0700
            Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Tony Toews <ttoews@telusplanet.net> - 2011-06-29 13:08 -0600
              Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Karl E. Peterson <karl@exmvps.org> - 2011-06-29 12:30 -0700
              Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2011-06-29 18:39 -0400
                Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Tony Toews <ttoews@telusplanet.net> - 2011-06-30 12:57 -0600
  Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory -mhd <not_real@invalid.com> - 2011-06-22 12:45 -0400
  Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2011-06-22 19:19 -0400
    Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2011-06-23 08:53 +0100
      Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2011-06-23 09:28 -0400
        Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2011-06-23 17:57 +0100
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    Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Bill <bbuntain@gmail.com> - 2011-06-23 12:23 -0700
  Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory "Nobody" <nobody@nobody.com> - 2011-06-22 20:22 -0400
    Re: "Run-time error 75" updating program in Vista/Windows 7 Program Files (x86) directory Bill <bbuntain@gmail.com> - 2011-06-23 12:17 -0700
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