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Re: smolnet

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From Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club>
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Subject Re: smolnet
Date Tue, 2 Apr 2024 17:55:16 +0200
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yeti wrote:

> Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> writes:
> 
> > If you don't mind I changed the topic,
> 
> No problem.
> 
> > because I am interested for ingredients to form (a) smolnet(s),
> > consisting of different protocols, where users can stay in contact
> > with each other, while having a Gemini capsule, for example and then
> > can be reached via Bitmessage (and alternative to Usenet and email)
> > and can transfer files, chat etc., while not using the big players.
> 
> I think we weed a lightweight overlay network/mesh and therein SMTP
> without all the new antispam measures would be an easy to set up
> service.  NNTP would allow many:may communication, even as a backend
> for forums and wikis unless something better would show up.

Maybe good old UUCP could be used for email, like in the past, and
Usenet too. Thus allowing people to run it from home, with the
help of free services like no-ip.com etc.?
> 
> > What I have not yet figured out is a simple option for file
> > transfer, without setting up a VPS server, same goes for chat.
> > Maybe Onionshare could be used.
> 
> Hmmm... SCP/SFTP over Tor wouldn't be too hard and if ever an own
> overlay network shows up, it hopefully wont be a problem there too.
> SCP/SFTP automagically works over Tor if the local SSH config allows
> it:
> 
> | (yeti@kumari:6)~$ sftp defiant.swarm
> | Connected to defiant.swarm.
> | sftp> _
> 
> Here .swarm addresses are SSH aliases to .onion addresses.

Ah ok. 
 
> 
> *** some few minutes of elevator music ***
> 
> 
> Loosely related: I'll soon be homeless!
> 
> - When Tor switches to Rust, I'll ditch it.

Oh ... :-(
 
> - (C++-)I2P is an even bigger heavyweight in CPU load than Tor.
> 
> - Yggdrasil and other overlay networks seem to prefer Go, Rust or even
>   JS and often look like "The source is the protocol's RFC!"?
> 
> - TINC-VPN needs per endpoint configuration (one keypair per
>   connection), same for UUCP.  So both don't fit my dream of an open
>   network/mesh.
> 
> Until a nice alternative to Tor surfaces, I'll better get used to be
> homeless soon, at least when it comes to the question of hidden
> services.

Do you know why the Tor devs are swithing to Rust, after all the years?

Do they think they will have lesser bugs in the code ...?!

-- 
Regards
Stefan

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  Re: smolnet (was: Small web protocols / alternative protocols) Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> - 2024-04-02 16:04 +0200
    Re: smolnet yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-04-02 15:48 +0042
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