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Re: smolnet

From yeti <yeti@tilde.institute>
Newsgroups comp.infosystems
Subject Re: smolnet
Date 2024-04-02 15:48 +0042
Organization Democratic Order of Pirates International (DOPI)
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Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> writes:

> If you don't mind I changed the topic,

No problem.

> because I am interested for ingredients to form (a) smolnet(s),
> consisting of different protocols, where users can stay in contact
> with each other, while having a Gemini capsule, for example and then
> can be reached via Bitmessage (and alternative to Usenet and email)
> and can transfer files, chat etc., while not using the big players.

I think we weed a lightweight overlay network/mesh and therein SMTP
without all the new antispam measures would be an easy to set up
service.  NNTP would allow many:may communication, even as a backend
for forums and wikis unless something better would show up.

> What I have not yet figured out is a simple option for file transfer,
> without setting up a VPS server, same goes for chat. Maybe Onionshare
> could be used.

Hmmm... SCP/SFTP over Tor wouldn't be too hard and if ever an own
overlay network shows up, it hopefully wont be a problem there too.
SCP/SFTP automagically works over Tor if the local SSH config allows it:

| (yeti@kumari:6)~$ sftp defiant.swarm
| Connected to defiant.swarm.
| sftp> _

Here .swarm addresses are SSH aliases to .onion addresses.


*** some few minutes of elevator music ***


Loosely related: I'll soon be homeless!

- When Tor switches to Rust, I'll ditch it.

- (C++-)I2P is an even bigger heavyweight in CPU load than Tor.

- Yggdrasil and other overlay networks seem to prefer Go, Rust or even
  JS and often look like "The source is the protocol's RFC!"?

- TINC-VPN needs per endpoint configuration (one keypair per
  connection), same for UUCP.  So both don't fit my dream of an open
  network/mesh.

Until a nice alternative to Tor surfaces, I'll better get used to be
homeless soon, at least when it comes to the question of hidden
services.


TL;DR:  <biiig> Sigh! </biiig>

-- 
I do not bite, I just want to play.

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Re: Small web protocols / alternative protocols yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-04-02 07:21 +0042
  Re: smolnet (was: Small web protocols / alternative protocols) Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> - 2024-04-02 16:04 +0200
    Re: smolnet yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-04-02 15:48 +0042
      Re: smolnet Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> - 2024-04-02 17:55 +0200
        Re: smolnet yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-04-02 17:10 +0042
          Re: smolnet Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> - 2024-04-02 18:42 +0200
            Re: smolnet Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> - 2024-04-02 19:54 +0200
              Re: smolnet yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-04-02 19:35 +0042
                Re: smolnet Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> - 2024-04-02 21:38 +0200
                Re: smolnet yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-04-02 20:38 +0042
                Re: smolnet Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> - 2024-04-03 18:46 +0200
                Re: smolnet yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-04-03 19:27 +0042
                Re: smolnet Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> - 2024-04-03 22:14 +0200
                Re: smolnet yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-04-04 13:33 +0042
                Re: smolnet Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> - 2024-04-04 15:44 +0200

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