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Re: [meta] Re: Xtics offset

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From Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com>
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Subject Re: [meta] Re: Xtics offset
Date Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:27:02 +0200
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On 17.08.2015 19:26, Ethan A Merritt wrote:
> People use gnuplot for an amazing variety of applications.
> I am continually surprised at where I come across it,
> and at what people tell me they use it for.

(Erm, you mean for something else than plotting data?)

I mean, one plots graphs with it, flat, 2D, projected-3D, whatever,
with circles, bars, dots, etc. - But some parts are fundamental, like
axes, scales, annotations; I wouldn't expect flaws at least in those
basic building blocks, specifically in a software that is so old (or
"mature"?).

> Probably no one person has ever made use of all the options, settings,
> features, and quirks that have accummulated in the gnuplot code.

You're most likely right here.

> 
> The point I am trying to make is that you should not assume that
> what you are trying to do lies on some well-trodden path from which
> many previous users have found and removed all the obstacles and bugs.
> In this case you have tripped over a behavior that has been there
> for the last 10 years, when the "offset" option was added for "set tics".

Why I think that it's basic features is that logarithmic scales and tics,
are basic features in both, in science and in [other] plotting software.
The 'offset', well, I agree that this part *may* be arguable; OTOH, on
software development scales, 10 years is really a lot (even if ignoring
that one gets rebuked if using a 5 year old release; LOL) - I'm wondering
that no one would have come across it (or no one reported it, given that
there seems to be a lot folks - specifically here around - that use that
tool more often than just sporadic (as I do).

>   
> Is it a bug?   yeah
> Is it fixable? probably
> Are you really the first one to hit it?
> I don't know, but I see no previous bug reports on the tracker.
> Either nobody tried this or they found a work-around and didn't
> bother to report it.  That doesn't match the profile I would
> expect for a "severe" bug - more like an unexpected restriction
> in a little-used feature.

(Little used feature? - Well, I have no research data and can't speak
for others; but, as explained above, it's hard to believe that.)

My intention was certainly not to anger all the fans of this software
with that qualification. ;-)  It was certainly influenced by the
frustration; about the bug, the hours I spent to understand what goes
on in that software, about the (first) response here, and that the
posted work-around did not work for me out of the box. - I take back
that qualification ("severe") that I made.

> 
> Anyhow, it's got a tracker number now, and will probably get
> a fix in due time:
> 
>    https://sourceforge.net/p/gnuplot/bugs/1662/

Thanks. I saw Karl-Friedrich's post.

Janis

> 
> - Ethan

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Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-15 02:05 +0200
  Re: Xtics offset Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2015-08-15 12:34 +0200
    Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:57 +0200
      Re: Xtics offset Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2015-08-15 21:38 +0200
        [meta] Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-15 23:34 +0200
      Re: Xtics offset Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch <mail.kfr@gmx.net> - 2015-08-16 00:57 +0200
        Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-16 01:15 +0200
          Re: Xtics offset Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch <mail.kfr@gmx.net> - 2015-08-16 01:59 +0200
  Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-16 01:04 +0200
    Re: Xtics offset Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch <mail.kfr@gmx.net> - 2015-08-16 01:11 +0200
      Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-16 01:22 +0200
        Re: Xtics offset Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch <mail.kfr@gmx.net> - 2015-08-16 01:57 +0200
          [meta] Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-16 14:03 +0200
            Re: [meta] Re: Xtics offset Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch <mail.kfr@gmx.net> - 2015-08-16 14:49 +0200
              Re: [meta] Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-16 15:35 +0200
                Re: [meta] Re: Xtics offset Ethan A Merritt <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2015-08-17 10:26 -0700
                Re: [meta] Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-17 21:27 +0200
        Re: Xtics offset Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch <mail.kfr@gmx.net> - 2015-08-16 02:19 +0200
          Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-16 14:22 +0200

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